Shiren 1 DS:Final Puzzle
Final Puzzle
フェイの最終問題
Final Dungeon |
The Final Puzzle "Fay's Final Puzzle" (Japanese: フェイの最終問題) is the ultimate, most difficult of the bonus dungeon in Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer. The entrance to this dungeon is in Canyon Hamlet, in Fay the Researcher Fay's Puzzles. You must first solve all of Fay's puzzles, and clear Table Mountain, and unlock and enter both the Kitchen God and the Scroll Cave. Even if you complete the main adventure on your first outing it will take another 20 or so outings to finish the necessary side quests.
Unique Features
You may not take items, Gitan, or Allies into the dungeon, which also means you can't receive items from Rescues.
This dungeon offers the widest variety of items, and it is possible to find a large number of different items even on early floors, and no categories of items are pre-identified for you. It also offers the widest variety of monsters, which most of the game's monsters making an appearance somewhere.
Goal & Final Reward
The goal is to reach the end of the dungeon -- to exit from floor 99. If you manage to pull off this greatest of Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer feats, you are rewarded with a view of "The Other Side of the World" (bonus room / cutscene), and you gain a Borg Mamel pet.
Farming Opportunities
Because this dungeon has the widest variety of possible items on early floors, you can sometimes get rare and valuable items here much earlier and easier than you could otherwise. It's not trivial to farm anything out, though you can occasionally find Storehouse Jars and get items out that way, though if you do so, it might negatively impact your chances to win the run. Because you can find rare things on early floors, this is an excellent location to abuse rescue passwords; see Rescue Passwords for Items for more info.
Strategies
Solving Final Puzzle is tremendously difficult, and requires more out of the player than the whole rest of the game combined.
Identifying items is of paramount importance. There are four main ways of discovering them: Scrolls of Identity, Identity Jars, identifying them by testing them out ("trial ID") and identifying them by checking shop prices ("price ID"). Using an identify item is best, but identify items themselves are unknown to begin with. See Identifying Items for more info.
It is also very useful to use a checklist and keep logs of what you've found so far in your current run. When you find an item you've never encountered before, find out as much as you can about it and write it down. Especially note how much it costs to buy one in a store: sell prices for most items are 3/10 of their purchase price. Staff and Jar charges add 10% each to the price, and a curse subtracts 10%. By noting prices in shops, you can narrow down item identities and reduce risk when testing them out. See Final Puzzle Printable Item Checklist.
The best time to test-read scrolls and eat herbs is when you're done exploring a floor and are ready to go to the next one, and are standing on the stairs. This way, if the Scroll is Hands Full or the Herb is Silence you haven't lost anything, and if a scroll is Monster, you can escape the new Monster House, if need be, after suffering only one round of attacks. The worst item is the valuable Seed of Ill Luck, which sets your level to 1 and other stats to initial values, but it is thankfully rare. (Alternatively, stand immediately inside a large room where the exit you're standing nearby leads to a shop or another room with the exit staircase. This way, if it does become a new Monster House, you can fully exploit the Monster House, using the shop to sell any excess items found. If you start to get overwhelmed, you can retreat to the stairs or retreat to the shop and pick up an unpaid item to have the shopkeeper's help blocking the entrance while you rest and heal up. See also Monster House Strategy.)
Some items are nearly essential to finishing this dungeon, and you must find them within your run. You'll probably need a Sleepless Armband to survive the Sleep Radish floors, which can put you to sleep at a distance. You'll probably need an Antidrain Armband for the Skull Demon floors, which can drain three levels with one shot. Getting your shield melded with anti-dragon and anti-explosion is nearly required. It also greatly helps to "bake" extra swords and shields in a Strengthening Jar, so you can meld those extra upgrade points onto your main sword and shield.
Beyond that, you'll need to maximize the benefit and minimize the risk/cost of every situation you encounter. The earlier floors are hardest, when you don't know anything, but even once you've identified most items, some monsters can cause you big problems. As mentioned above, Skull Wraiths, Skull Demons, Sleep Radishes, and Fear Radishes are the most dangerous monsters since they can hit you once with a long distance attack to give you a debilitating status effect from which you might never recover before you're killed. In addition, Ark Dragons, Piggora, Piggaron, and Cloud Hermits are big problems since they can attack from great distances, even if they're not in the same room.
Monsters
Sprite | Monster | Floors | Experience | |
---|---|---|---|---|
English | Japanese | |||
Mamel | マムル | 1 - 2 | 2 | |
Pit Mamel | あなぐらマムル | 1 - 3 | 3 | |
Rice Baby | 妖怪にぎり見習い | 2 - 3 | 4 | |
Bowboy | ボウヤー | 3 - 4 | 6 | |
Ghost Radish | おばけ大根 | 3 - 4 | 7 | |
Dark Eye | ヤミウッチー | 3 - 5 | 7 | |
Pickpocket | ガマラ | 3 - 7 | 3 | |
Egg Thing | ぴーたん | 3 - 9 | 7 | |
Flying Fowl | カラカラペンペン | 4 - 6 | 12 | |
Evil Soldier | 鬼面武者 | 4 - 5 | 15 | |
Dead Soldier | ぼうれい武者 | 4 - 5 | 4 | |
Rice Changer | 妖怪にぎり変化 | 4 - 6 | 12 | |
Crossbowboy | クロスボウヤー | 5 - 7 | 11 | |
Floor Dragon | とおせんりゅう | 5 - 7 | 18 | |
Field Bandit | 畠荒らし | 5 - 6 | 7 | |
Ironhead | アイアンヘッド | 5 - 6 | 23 | |
N'Duba | ンドゥバ | 5 - 14 | 20 | |
Skull Mage | ガイコツまどう | 6 - 8 | 17 | |
Gaze | ゲイズ | 6 - 8 | 25 | |
Polygon Spin | まわるポリゴン | 7 - 9 | 15 | |
Death Reaper | 死の使い | 8 - 9 | 16 | |
Baby Tengu | 小僧天狗 | 8 - 10 | 5 | |
Spike Bomb | ばくだんウニ | 8 - 10 | 20 | |
Taur | タウロス | 8 - 10 | 35 | |
Tiger Uho | タイガーウッホ | 8 - 10 | 35 | |
Thiefwalrus | ぬすっトド | 8 - 12 | 15 | |
Dark Owl | やみふくろう | 8 - 13 | 10 | |
Thief | ガマグッチ | 8 - 14 | 10 | |
Soldier Ant | 兵隊アリ | 8 - 14 | 70 | |
Curse Girl | ノロージョ | 10 - 12 | 40 | |
Popster Tank | オヤジ戦車 | 10 - 12 | 65 | |
Piggy | デブータ | 10 - 12 | 25 | |
Pacorepkin | パコレプキン | 10 - 13 | 42 | |
Running Egg | 逃げピータン | 10 - 19 | 15 | |
Fluffy Bunny | いやしウサギ | 10 - 29 | 8 | |
Leech Worm | 吸引幼虫 | 11 - 12 | 15 | |
Inferno | 火炎入道 | 11 - 13 | 55 | |
Kigny | キグニ族 | 11 - 13 | 50 | |
Parthenos | パルテノス | 11 - 13 | 48 | |
Cell Armor | セルアーマー | 12 - 14 | 70 | |
Fog Hermit | きり仙人 | 12 - 15 | 60 | |
Vipy | マムーン | 12 - 15 | 60 | |
Crossbowboy | クロスボウヤー | 13 - 15 | 11 | |
Flamepuff | ホノオポフ | 13 - 15 | 45 | |
Skull Wizard | ガイコツまじん | 14 - 16 | 70 | |
Daze Radish | めまわし大根 | 14 - 15 | 50 | |
Twisty Hani | くねくねハニー | 15 - 16 | 35 | |
Gather | ギャザー | 15 - 16 | 115 | |
Sabregator | サーベルゲータ | 15 - 16 | 75 | |
Purple Slime | ゲドロ | 15 - 16 | 40 | |
Dremlas | ドレムラス | 15 - 18 | 75 | |
Evil General | 将軍 | 15 - 18 | 60 | |
Dead General | 将軍ゾンビ | 15 - 18 | 25 | |
Air Devil | エーテルデビル | 15 - 23 | 30 | |
Corporal Ant | 隊長アリ | 15 - 25 | 600 | |
N'Dulu | ンドゥルー | 15 - 30 | 60 | |
Hell Reaper | 地獄の死者 | 16 - 20 | 130 | |
Chainhead | チェインヘッド | 16 - 21 | 200 | |
Curse Sis | ノロージョの姉 | 17 - 19 | 100 | |
Greenwalrus | みどりトド | 17 - 19 | 30 | |
Half Warrior | 正面戦士 | 17 - 20 | 180 | |
Master Hen | マスターチキン | 17 - 20 | 400 | |
Hen | チキン | 17 - 20 | 1 | |
Mini Tank | ちびタンク | 18 - 20 | 52 | |
Young Tengu | カラス天狗 | 19 - 21 | 20 | |
Mistonos | ミストノス | 20 - 22 | 300 | |
Flying Egg | 飛びぴーたん | 20 - 25 | 50 | |
Ghost Owl | ようまふくろう | 20 - 29 | 50 | |
Super Gaze | スーパーゲイズ | 21 - 24 | 150 | |
Mecharoid | カラクロイド | 21 - 24 | 250 | |
Dadster Tank | ガンコ戦車 | 21 - 25 | 300 | |
Schubell | シューベル | 21 - 25 | 100 | |
Menbell | メンベルス | 21 - 25 | 200 | |
Rice Boss | 妖怪にぎり親方 | 22 - 25 | 200 | |
Metal Armor | クロムアーマー | 23 - 25 | 600 | |
Haze Hermit | みの仙人 | 23 - 25 | 200 | |
Spike Blast | ばくれつウニ | 23 - 25 | 100 | |
Polygon Jive | おどるポリゴン | 23 - 25 | 300 | |
Pacorepkina | パコレプキーナ | 23 - 25 | 250 | |
Minotaur | ミノタウロス | 23 - 26 | 400 | |
Blazepuff | カエンポフ | 25 - 27 | 220 | |
Hover Fowl | バババペンペン | 25 - 28 | 250 | |
Skull Wraith | ガイコツまおう | 26 - 30 | 350 | |
Tiger Uhoho | タイガーウホホ | 26 - 30 | 550 | |
Death Angel | 死神 | 26 - 30 | 700 | |
Captain Ant | 大将アリ | 26 - 35 | 200 | |
Dragon Head | ドラゴンヘッド | 27 - 35 | 650 | |
Dragon | ドラゴン | 27 - 35 | 1,300 | |
Madremlas | マッドレムラス | 27 - 35 | 800 | |
Piggo | デブーチョ | 27 - 35 | 500 | |
Leech Bug | 吸引虫 | 28 - 30 | 300 | |
Item Bandit | 物荒らし | 28 - 31 | 250 | |
Inferno2 | 火炎入道2 | 30 - 35 | 80 | |
Ironwalrus | アイアントド | 30 - 50 | 150 | |
Floppy Hani | なよなよハニー | 31 - 34 | 150 | |
Shadow Eye | カゲウッチー | 31 - 35 | 300 | |
Curse Mom | ノロージョの母 | 31 - 35 | 600 | |
Wraith Devil | ファントムデビル | 31 - 45 | 150 | |
N'Bama | ンバマ | 31 - 50 | 250 | |
Cave Mamel | 洞窟マムル | 34 - 38 | 800 | |
Tengu Chief | 天狗師匠 | 36 - 40 | 150 | |
Spike Fire | ふんかウニ | 36 - 40 | 450 | |
Inferno3 | 火炎入道3 | 36 - 40 | 250 | |
Kigny3 | キグニ族3 | 36 - 40 | 200 | |
Verginos | ヴェルギノス | 36 - 40 | 650 | |
Steel Armor | チタンアーマー | 36 - 40 | 2,000 | |
Dusk Owl | あんこくふくろう | 36 - 45 | 200 | |
Killer Gather | キラーギャザー | 36 - 45 | 600 | |
Pythy | ニシキーン | 36 - 45 | 580 | |
Gigahead | ギガヘッド | 36 - 45 | 1,200 | |
Polygon Song | うたうポリゴン | 41 - 45 | 1,000 | |
Half Fighter | 正面ファイター | 41 - 45 | 460 | |
Steamroid | スチームロイド | 41 - 45 | 900 | |
Burglar | ガマゴン | 41 - 45 | 100 | |
Grey Slime | オドロ | 41 - 55 | 200 | |
Sleep Radish | ねむり大根 | 46 - 60 | 500 | |
Mist Hermit | かすみ仙人 | 46 - 60 | 1,000 | |
Hyper Gaze | ハイパーゲイズ | 46 - 60 | 800 | |
Sky Dragon | スカイドラゴン | 46 - 60 | 2,600 | |
Dirt Dragon | スルードラゴン | 46 - 60 | 1,200 | |
Leech Fly | 吸引成虫 | 46 - 60 | 700 | |
Great Hen | グレートチキン | 46 - 60 | 1,500 | |
Hen | チキン | 46 - 60 | 1 | |
Pacorepking | パコレプキング | 46 - 60 | 750 | |
Tiger Uhon | タイガーウホーン | 51 - 65 | 1,300 | |
Hardremlas | ハードレムラス | 51 - 65 | 1,600 | |
Bladegator | ブレイドゲータ | 51 - 65 | 1,600 | |
Bellthoven | ベルトーベン | 51 - 65 | 300 | |
Megataur | メガタウロス | 51 - 65 | 1,750 | |
Death Master | 冥王 | 51 - 65 | 3,000 | |
N'Balun | ンバルーン | 51 - 99 | 600 | |
Fluffy Bunny | いやしウサギ | 51 - 70 | 8 | |
Gitan Mamel | ギタンマムル | 56 - 65 | 2,000 | |
Skull Demon | ガイコツまてん | 61 - 75 | 2,000 | |
Droopy Hani | くたくたハニー | 61 - 75 | 400 | |
Oldster Tank | イッテツ戦車 | 61 - 75 | 1,800 | |
Half Master | 正面マスター | 61 - 75 | 800 | |
Piggora | デブートン | 61 - 75 | 2,100 | |
Hiding Egg | 隠れぴーたん | 61 - 75 | 300 | |
Chaos Owl | こんとんふくろう | 61 - 80 | 650 | |
General Ant | 元帥アリ | 61 - 80 | 450 | |
Anacondy | アナコーン | 63 - 69 | 1,600 | |
Curse Gran | ノロージョの婆 | 66 - 75 | 1,500 | |
Mirage Devil | ミラージュデビル | 66 - 75 | 400 | |
Jet Fowl | ゴゴゴペンペン | 66 - 80 | 1,100 | |
Infernopuff | ゴオオポフ | 66 - 80 | 900 | |
Evil Shogun | 大将軍 | 66 - 80 | 400 | |
Dead Shogun | 大将軍ゾンビ | 66 - 80 | 300 | |
Hell Gather | ヘルギャザー | 66 - 80 | 1,500 | |
Electroid | エレキロイド | 66 - 80 | 1,700 | |
Deathhead | デスヘッド | 71 - 80 | 3,000 | |
Alloy Armor | メタルアーマー | 71 - 80 | 3,600 | |
Tengu Elder | 天狗開祖 | 71 - 85 | 400 | |
Fear Eye | ミダレウッチー | 71 - 90 | 800 | |
Miracle Hen | ミラクルチキン | 76 - 85 | 3,200 | |
Hen | チキン | 76 - 85 | 1 | |
Spike Erupt | だいふんかウニ | 80 - 90 | 1,100 | |
Tiger Uboho | タイガーウボッホ | 80 - 90 | 2,400 | |
Earth Dragon | ふくりゅう | 80 - 90 | 3,800 | |
Cloud Hermit | もや仙人 | 80 - 99 | 2,200 | |
Leech Queen | 吸引老虫 | 81 - 90 | 950 | |
Polygon Jig | らんぶポリゴン | 81 - 90 | 2,700 | |
Swordgator | ソードゲータ | 81 - 90 | 2,800 | |
Kleptomaniac | ガマドーン | 81 - 90 | 300 | |
Roguewalrus | ローグトド | 81 - 90 | 400 | |
Heavyremlas | ヘビーレムラス | 85 - 99 | 4,200 | |
Ark Dragon | アークドラゴン | 86 - 95 | 4,000 | |
Rice Master | 妖怪にぎり元締 | 86 - 95 | 1,500 | |
Piggaron | デブーゴン | 87 - 95 | 3,500 | |
Showpin | ショーパン | 90 - 99 | 400 | |
Wrinkly Hani | しわしわハニー | 91 - 95 | 900 | |
Fluffy Bunny | いやしウサギ | 91 - 99 | 8 | |
Half Lord | 正面ロード | 91 - 99 | 1,500 | |
Gigataur | ギガタウロス | 91 - 99 | 4,200 | |
Astral Devil | アストラルデビル | 91 - 99 | 700 | |
Pacorepgod | パコレプゴッド | 91 - 99 | 2,300 | |
Goldinos | ゴルディノス | 95 - 99 | 1,600 | |
Fear Radish | みだれ大根 | 95 - 99 | 1,300 |
Special Monster Houses
Type: | Monster Level | ||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | All | |
One-Eye House | 1 - 10 | 11 - 25 | 26 - 50 | 51 - 99 | 51 - 99 |
Ghost House | 1 - 10 | 11 - 25 | 26 - 50 | 51 - 99 | 51 - 99 |
Drain House | 1 - 10 | 11 - 25 | 26 - 50 | 51 - 99 | 51 - 99 |
Dragon House | 1 - 25 | 26 - 45 | 71 - 80 | 81 - 99 | 71 - 99 |
Thief House | 1 - 10 | 11 - 25 | - | - | 31 - 99 |
Sky House | 1 - 20 | 21 - 70 | 71 - 99 | - | 71 - 99 |
Power House | 1 - 10 | 11 - 25 | 26 - 50 | - | 51 - 99 |
Items
Traps
Sprite | Trap | Spawn
Floor |
Appearance
Floors | |
---|---|---|---|---|
Japanese | English | |||
Wood Arrow Trap | 木の矢のワナ | 1 | 1 - 5 | |
Stumble Trap | 転び石のワナ | 1 - 99 | ||
Unequip Trap | 装備はずしのワナ | 1 - 99 | ||
Alarm Trap | 警報スイッチのワナ | 1 - 99 | ||
Summon Trap | 召喚スイッチのワナ | 1 - 99 | ||
Multiplication Trap | 罠増え | 1 - 99 | ||
Pitfall Trap | 落し穴のワナ | 1 - 99 | ||
Spring Trap | バネのワナ | 1 - 99 | ||
Log Trap | 丸太のワナ | 1 - 99 | ||
Spinning Trap | 回転板のワナ | 1 - 99 | ||
Dream Gas Trap | 幻覚ガス | 1 - 99 | ||
Sleeping Gas Trap | 睡眠ガス | 1 - 99 | ||
Slowness Trap | 鈍足スイッチ | 1 - 99 | ||
Immobilization Trap | カゲぬいのワナ | 1 - 99 | ||
Hunger Trap | 空腹スイッチのワナ | 1 - 99 | ||
Poison Dart Trap | 毒矢のワナ | 1 - 99 | ||
Landmine Trap | 地雷のワナ | 1 - 99 | ||
Big Landmine Trap | 大型地雷のワナ | 1 - 99 | ||
Riceball Trap | おにぎり | 1 - 99 | ||
Curse Trap | 呪いのワナ | 1 - 99 | ||
Iron Arrow Trap | 鉄の矢のワナ | 6 | 6 - 10 | |
Rusty Trap | サビのワナ | 6 - 99 | ||
Rotten Trap | デロデロのワナ | 6 - 99 | ||
Boulder Trap | 落石スイッチのワナ | 11 | 11 - 99 | |
Stairway Trap | 階段のワナ | 90 | 90 - 99 |
In Other Languages
Language | Name | ||
---|---|---|---|
English | Final Puzzle | ||
日本語 | フェイの最終問題 |
See Also
References
- [1] This chart was compiled from Gabikun's monsters FAQ on on GameFAQs. Gabikun used a guide made by Chunsoft when making his FAQ.
- [2] Exact trap spawn locations and special monster house info.
- ↑ http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/925583/54011
- ↑ Shiren 1 DS official Japanese strategy guide