Shiren 1 DS:Final Puzzle

Final Puzzle フェイの最終問題
Information
Entrance Location	Fay the Researcher Fay's Puzzles in Canyon Hamlet
Final Goal Floor	99
Total Floor Count	99
Backtracking	No
Bring Items In	No
Bring Gitan In	No
Bring Adventure Allies In	No
Rescues	3
Number of Rescue Attempts	5
Characters
Pre-ID'd Items	Food, Blank Scrolls
Visibility
Shops	1 - 99
Monster Houses	1 - 99 Normal, One Room, Special
Gitan Vaults	1 - 99
Monster Spawn Rate	60
The Winds of Kron	2,000 turns
Boss	None

This Final Puzzle page is about the Nintendo DS release. For the Super Famicom release, see Shiren 1 SFC:Fay's Final Puzzle.

For the lore page, see Shiren:Fay's Final Puzzle.

The Final Puzzle "Fay's Final Puzzle" (Japanese: フェイの最終問題) is the ultimate, most difficult of the bonus dungeon in  Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer. The entrance to this dungeon is in Canyon Hamlet, in Fay the Researcher Fay's Puzzles. You must first solve all of Fay's puzzles, and clear Table Mountain, and unlock and enter both the Kitchen God and the Scroll Cave. Even if you complete the main adventure on your first outing it will take another 20 or so outings to finish the necessary side quests.

Unique Features

You may not take items, Gitan, or Adventure Allies into the dungeon, which also means you can't receive items from Rescues.

This dungeon offers the widest variety of items, and it is possible to find a large number of different items even on early floors, and no categories of items are pre-identified for you. It also offers the widest variety of monsters, which most of the game's monsters making an appearance somewhere.

Goal and Final Reward

The goal is to reach the end of the dungeon -- to exit from floor 99. If you manage to pull off this greatest of  Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer feats, you are rewarded with a view of "The Other Side of the World" (bonus room / cutscene), and you gain a Borg Mamel pet.

Farming Opportunities

Because this dungeon has the widest variety of possible items on early floors, you can sometimes get rare and valuable items here much earlier and easier than you could otherwise. It's not trivial to farm anything out, though you can occasionally find Storehouse Jars and get items out that way, though if you do so, it might negatively impact your chances to win the run. Because you can find rare things on early floors, this is an excellent location to abuse rescue passwords; see Rescue Passwords for Items for more info.

Strategies

Solving Final Puzzle is tremendously difficult, and requires more out of the player than the whole rest of the game combined.

Identifying items is of paramount importance. There are four main ways of discovering them: Scrolls of Identity, Identity Jars, identifying them by testing them out ("trial ID") and identifying them by checking shop prices ("price ID"). Using an identify item is best, but identify items themselves are unknown to begin with. See Identifying Items for more info.

It is also very useful to use a checklist and keep logs of what you've found so far in your current run. When you find an item you've never encountered before, find out as much as you can about it and write it down. Especially note how much it costs to buy one in a store: sell prices for most items are 3/10 of their purchase price. Staff and Jar charges add 10% each to the price, and a curse subtracts 10%. By noting prices in shops, you can narrow down item identities and reduce risk when testing them out. See Final Puzzle Printable Item Checklist.

The best time to test-read scrolls and eat herbs is when you're done exploring a floor and are ready to go to the next one, and are standing on the stairs. This way, if the Scroll is Hands Full or the Herb is Silence you haven't lost anything, and if a scroll is Monster, you can escape the new Monster House, if need be, after suffering only one round of attacks. The worst item is the valuable Seed of Ill Luck, which sets your level to 1 and other stats to initial values, but it is thankfully rare. (Alternatively, stand immediately inside a large room where the exit you're standing nearby leads to a shop or another room with the exit staircase. This way, if it does become a new Monster House, you can fully exploit the Monster House, using the shop to sell any excess items found. If you start to get overwhelmed, you can retreat to the stairs or retreat to the shop and pick up an unpaid item to have the shopkeeper's help blocking the entrance while you rest and heal up. See also Monster House Strategy.)

Some items are nearly essential to finishing this dungeon, and you must find them within your run. You'll probably need a Sleepless Armband to survive the Sleep Radish floors, which can put you to sleep at a distance. You'll probably need an Antidrain Armband for the Skull Demon floors, which can drain three levels with one shot. Getting your shield melded with anti-dragon and anti-explosion is nearly required. It also greatly helps to "bake" extra swords and shields in a Strengthening Jar, so you can meld those extra upgrade points onto your main sword and shield.

Beyond that, you'll need to maximize the benefit and minimize the risk/cost of every situation you encounter. The earlier floors are hardest, when you don't know anything, but even once you've identified most items, some monsters can cause you big problems. As mentioned above, Skull Wraiths, Skull Demons, Sleep Radishes, and Fear Radishes are the most dangerous monsters since they can hit you once with a long distance attack to give you a debilitating status effect from which you might never recover before you're killed. In addition, Ark Dragons, Piggora, Piggaron, and Cloud Hermits are big problems since they can attack from great distances, even if they're not in the same room.

Monsters

Sprite	Monster		Floors	Experience
	English	Japanese
	Mamel	マムル	1 - 2	2
	Pit Mamel	あなぐらマムル	1 - 3	3
	Rice Baby	妖怪にぎり見習い	2 - 3	4
	Bowboy	ボウヤー	3 - 4	6
	Ghost Radish	おばけ大根	3 - 4	7
	Dark Eye	ヤミウッチー	3 - 5	7
	Pickpocket	ガマラ	3 - 7	3
	Egg Thing	ぴーたん	3 - 9	7
	Flying Fowl	カラカラペンペン	4 - 6	12
	Evil Soldier	鬼面武者	4 - 5	15
	Dead Soldier	ぼうれい武者	4 - 5	4
	Rice Changer	妖怪にぎり変化	4 - 6	12
	Crossbowboy	クロスボウヤー	5 - 7	11
	Floor Dragon	とおせんりゅう	5 - 7	18
	Field Bandit	畠荒らし	5 - 6	7
	Ironhead	アイアンヘッド	5 - 6	23
	N'Duba	ンドゥバ	5 - 14	20
	Skull Mage	ガイコツまどう	6 - 8	17
	Gaze	ゲイズ	6 - 8	25
	Polygon Spin	まわるポリゴン	7 - 9	15
	Death Reaper	死の使い	8 - 9	16
	Baby Tengu	小僧天狗	8 - 10	5
	Spike Bomb	ばくだんウニ	8 - 10	20
	Taur	タウロス	8 - 10	35
	Tiger Uho	タイガーウッホ	8 - 10	35
	Thiefwalrus	ぬすっトド	8 - 12	15
	Dark Owl	やみふくろう	8 - 13	10
	Thief	ガマグッチ	8 - 14	10
	Soldier Ant	兵隊アリ	8 - 14	70
	Curse Girl	ノロージョ	10 - 12	40
	Popster Tank	オヤジ戦車	10 - 12	65
	Piggy	デブータ	10 - 12	25
	Pacorepkin	パコレプキン	10 - 13	42
	Running Egg	逃げピータン	10 - 19	15
	Fluffy Bunny	いやしウサギ	10 - 29	8
	Leech Worm	吸引幼虫	11 - 12	15
	Inferno	火炎入道	11 - 13	55
	Kigny	キグニ族	11 - 13	50
	Parthenos	パルテノス	11 - 13	48
	Cell Armor	セルアーマー	12 - 14	70
	Fog Hermit	きり仙人	12 - 15	60
	Vipy	マムーン	12 - 15	60
	Crossbowboy	クロスボウヤー	13 - 15	11
	Flamepuff	ホノオポフ	13 - 15	45
	Skull Wizard	ガイコツまじん	14 - 16	70
	Daze Radish	めまわし大根	14 - 15	50
	Twisty Hani	くねくねハニー	15 - 16	35
	Gather	ギャザー	15 - 16	115
	Sabregator	サーベルゲータ	15 - 16	75
	Purple Slime	ゲドロ	15 - 16	40
	Dremlas	ドレムラス	15 - 18	75
	Evil General	将軍	15 - 18	60
	Dead General	将軍ゾンビ	15 - 18	25
	Air Devil	エーテルデビル	15 - 23	30
	Corporal Ant	隊長アリ	15 - 25	600
	N'Dulu	ンドゥルー	15 - 30	60
	Hell Reaper	地獄の死者	16 - 20	130
	Chainhead	チェインヘッド	16 - 21	200
	Curse Sis	ノロージョの姉	17 - 19	100
	Greenwalrus	みどりトド	17 - 19	30
	Half Warrior	正面戦士	17 - 20	180
	Master Hen	マスターチキン	17 - 20	400
	Hen	チキン	17 - 20	1
	Mini Tank	ちびタンク	18 - 20	52
	Young Tengu	カラス天狗	19 - 21	20
	Mistonos	ミストノス	20 - 22	300
	Flying Egg	飛びぴーたん	20 - 25	50
	Ghost Owl	ようまふくろう	20 - 29	50
	Super Gaze	スーパーゲイズ	21 - 24	150
	Mecharoid	カラクロイド	21 - 24	250
	Dadster Tank	ガンコ戦車	21 - 25	300
	Schubell	シューベル	21 - 25	100
	Menbell	メンベルス	21 - 25	200
	Rice Boss	妖怪にぎり親方	22 - 25	200
	Metal Armor	クロムアーマー	23 - 25	600
	Haze Hermit	みの仙人	23 - 25	200
	Spike Blast	ばくれつウニ	23 - 25	100
	Polygon Jive	おどるポリゴン	23 - 25	300
	Pacorepkina	パコレプキーナ	23 - 25	250
	Minotaur	ミノタウロス	23 - 26	400
	Blazepuff	カエンポフ	25 - 27	220
	Hover Fowl	バババペンペン	25 - 28	250
	Skull Wraith	ガイコツまおう	26 - 30	350
	Tiger Uhoho	タイガーウホホ	26 - 30	550
	Death Angel	死神	26 - 30	700
	Captain Ant	大将アリ	26 - 35	200
	Dragon Head	ドラゴンヘッド	27 - 35	650
	Dragon	ドラゴン	27 - 35	1,300
	Madremlas	マッドレムラス	27 - 35	800
	Piggo	デブーチョ	27 - 35	500
	Leech Bug	吸引虫	28 - 30	300
	Item Bandit	物荒らし	28 - 31	250
	Inferno2	火炎入道2	30 - 35	80
	Ironwalrus	アイアントド	30 - 50	150
	Floppy Hani	なよなよハニー	31 - 34	150
	Shadow Eye	カゲウッチー	31 - 35	300
	Curse Mom	ノロージョの母	31 - 35	600
	Wraith Devil	ファントムデビル	31 - 45	150
	N'Bama	ンバマ	31 - 50	250
	Cave Mamel	洞窟マムル	34 - 38	800
	Tengu Chief	天狗師匠	36 - 40	150
	Spike Fire	ふんかウニ	36 - 40	450
	Inferno3	火炎入道3	36 - 40	250
	Kigny3	キグニ族3	36 - 40	200
	Verginos	ヴェルギノス	36 - 40	650
	Steel Armor	チタンアーマー	36 - 40	2,000
	Dusk Owl	あんこくふくろう	36 - 45	200
	Killer Gather	キラーギャザー	36 - 45	600
	Pythy	ニシキーン	36 - 45	580
	Gigahead	ギガヘッド	36 - 45	1,200
	Polygon Song	うたうポリゴン	41 - 45	1,000
	Half Fighter	正面ファイター	41 - 45	460
	Steamroid	スチームロイド	41 - 45	900
	Burglar	ガマゴン	41 - 45	100
	Grey Slime	オドロ	41 - 55	200
	Sleep Radish	ねむり大根	46 - 60	500
	Mist Hermit	かすみ仙人	46 - 60	1,000
	Hyper Gaze	ハイパーゲイズ	46 - 60	800
	Sky Dragon	スカイドラゴン	46 - 60	2,600
	Dirt Dragon	スルードラゴン	46 - 60	1,200
	Leech Fly	吸引成虫	46 - 60	700
	Great Hen	グレートチキン	46 - 60	1,500
	Hen	チキン	46 - 60	1
	Pacorepking	パコレプキング	46 - 60	750
	Tiger Uhon	タイガーウホーン	51 - 65	1,300
	Hardremlas	ハードレムラス	51 - 65	1,600
	Bladegator	ブレイドゲータ	51 - 65	1,600
	Bellthoven	ベルトーベン	51 - 65	300
	Megataur	メガタウロス	51 - 65	1,750
	Death Master	冥王	51 - 65	3,000
	N'Balun	ンバルーン	51 - 99	600
	Fluffy Bunny	いやしウサギ	51 - 70	8
	Gitan Mamel	ギタンマムル	56 - 65	2,000
	Skull Demon	ガイコツまてん	61 - 75	2,000
	Droopy Hani	くたくたハニー	61 - 75	400
	Oldster Tank	イッテツ戦車	61 - 75	1,800
	Half Master	正面マスター	61 - 75	800
	Piggora	デブートン	61 - 75	2,100
	Hiding Egg	隠れぴーたん	61 - 75	300
	Chaos Owl	こんとんふくろう	61 - 80	650
	General Ant	元帥アリ	61 - 80	450
	Anacondy	アナコーン	63 - 69	1,600
	Curse Gran	ノロージョの婆	66 - 75	1,500
	Mirage Devil	ミラージュデビル	66 - 75	400
	Jet Fowl	ゴゴゴペンペン	66 - 80	1,100
	Infernopuff	ゴオオポフ	66 - 80	900
	Evil Shogun	大将軍	66 - 80	400
	Dead Shogun	大将軍ゾンビ	66 - 80	300
	Hell Gather	ヘルギャザー	66 - 80	1,500
	Electroid	エレキロイド	66 - 80	1,700
	Deathhead	デスヘッド	71 - 80	3,000
	Alloy Armor	メタルアーマー	71 - 80	3,600
	Tengu Elder	天狗開祖	71 - 85	400
	Fear Eye	ミダレウッチー	71 - 90	800
	Miracle Hen	ミラクルチキン	76 - 85	3,200
	Hen	チキン	76 - 85	1
	Spike Erupt	だいふんかウニ	80 - 90	1,100
	Tiger Uboho	タイガーウボッホ	80 - 90	2,400
	Earth Dragon	ふくりゅう	80 - 90	3,800
	Cloud Hermit	もや仙人	80 - 99	2,200
	Leech Queen	吸引老虫	81 - 90	950
	Polygon Jig	らんぶポリゴン	81 - 90	2,700
	Swordgator	ソードゲータ	81 - 90	2,800
	Kleptomaniac	ガマドーン	81 - 90	300
	Roguewalrus	ローグトド	81 - 90	400
	Heavyremlas	ヘビーレムラス	85 - 99	4,200
	Ark Dragon	アークドラゴン	86 - 95	4,000
	Rice Master	妖怪にぎり元締	86 - 95	1,500
	Piggaron	デブーゴン	87 - 95	3,500
	Showpin	ショーパン	90 - 99	400
	Wrinkly Hani	しわしわハニー	91 - 95	900
	Fluffy Bunny	いやしウサギ	91 - 99	8
	Half Lord	正面ロード	91 - 99	1,500
	Gigataur	ギガタウロス	91 - 99	4,200
	Astral Devil	アストラルデビル	91 - 99	700
	Pacorepgod	パコレプゴッド	91 - 99	2,300
	Goldinos	ゴルディノス	95 - 99	1,600
	Fear Radish	みだれ大根	95 - 99	1,300

Special Monster Houses

Type:	Monster Level
	1	2	3	4	All
One-Eye House	1 - 10	11 - 25	26 - 50	51 - 99	51 - 99
Ghost House	1 - 10	11 - 25	26 - 50	51 - 99	51 - 99
Drain House	1 - 10	11 - 25	26 - 50	51 - 99	51 - 99
Dragon House	1 - 25	26 - 45	71 - 80	81 - 99	71 - 99
Thief House	1 - 10	11 - 25	-	-	31 - 99
Sky House	1 - 20	21 - 70	71 - 99	-	71 - 99
Power House	1 - 10	11 - 25	26 - 50	-	51 - 99

Items

Weapons		Shields		Armbands		Projectiles		Riceballs
English	Japanese	English	Japanese	English	Japanese	English	Japanese	English	Japanese
Katana	カタナ	Gold Shield	金の盾	Pitcher's Armband	遠投の腕輪	Wooden Arrow	木の矢	Riceball	おにぎり
Golden Blade	金の剣	Armor Ward	重装の盾	Critical Armband	会心の腕輪			Big Riceball	大きなおにぎり
Kabra's Blade	剛剣マンジカブラ	Blast Shield	地雷ナバリの盾	Recovery Armband	回復の腕輪			Giant Riceball	巨大なおにぎり
Cudgel	こん棒	Bronzeward	青銅甲の盾	Armband of Calm	混乱よけの腕輪			Special Riceball	特製おにぎり
Air Slayer	斬空剣	Iron Shield	鉄甲の盾	Rustless Armband	サビよけの腕輪
Sickle Slayer	成仏の鎌	Walrus Shield	トドの盾	Happy Armband	しあわせの腕輪
Pickaxe	つるはし	Dragonward	ドラゴンシールド	Armband of Loss	たれ流しの腕輪
Mastersword	どうたぬき	Spiked Ward	バトルカウンター	Passage Armband	通過の腕輪
Dragonkiller	ドラゴンキラー	Hide Shield	皮甲の盾	Armband of Regret	痛恨の腕輪
Drain Buster	ドレインバスター	Windshield	風魔の盾	Armband of Sight	透視の腕輪
Polearm	長巻	Fancy Shield	見かけだおしの盾	Antidote Armband	毒よけの腕輪
Cyclops Killer	一ツ目殺し	Evasive Shield	見切りの盾	Antidrain Armband	ドレインよけの腕輪
Crescent Arm	三日月刀	Wood Shield	木甲の盾	Discount Armband	値切りの腕輪
Razor Wind	妖刀かまいたち			Sleepless Armband	眠りよけの腕輪
Herbs		Jars		Staves		Scrolls		Shop
English	Japanese	English	Japanese	English	Japanese	English	Japanese	English	Japanese
Big Belly Seed	胃拡張の種	Pointless Jar	アホくさい壺	Pain Sharing Staff	痛み分けの杖	Blank Scroll	白紙の巻物
Little Belly Seed	胃縮小の種	Venting Jar	うっぷんのばらしの壺	Staff of Postpone	一時しのぎの杖	Scroll of Sleep	バクスイの巻物
Herb of Life	命の草	Gaibara's Jar	ガイバラの壺	Staff of Recovery	回復の杖	Power Up Scroll	パワーアップの巻物
Restorative Herb	弟切草	Strengthening Jar	強化の壺	Accelerating Staff	加速の杖	Hands Full Scroll	拾えずの巻物
Kigny Seed	キグニ族の種	Melding Jar	合成の壺	Staff of Paralysis	かなしばりの杖	Wandering Scroll	迷子の巻物
Bitter Herb	くねくね草	Jar of Identity	識別の壺	Staff of Stability	ころばぬ先の杖	Monster Scroll	モンスターハウスの巻物
Herb of Confusion	混乱草	Weakening Jar	弱化の壺	Staff of Happiness	しあわせの杖	Traps	ワナの巻物
Happiness Herb	しあわせ草	Chiropractic Jar	背中の壺	Staff of Sloth	鈍足の杖	Air Bless Scroll	天の恵みの巻物
Sleeping Herb	睡眠草	Storehouse Jar	倉庫の壺	Switching Staff	場所がえの杖	Scroll of Haste	敵加速の巻物
Herb of Strength	ちからの草	Bottomless Jar	底ぬけの壺	Sealing Staff	封印の杖	Earth Bless Scroll	地の恵みの巻物
Antidote Herb	毒消し草	Walrus Jar	トドの壺	Knockback Staff	ふき飛ばしの杖	Extraction Scroll	吸い出しの巻物
Poison Herb	毒草	Jar of Change	変化の壺	Staff of Misfortune	不幸の杖	Blastwave Scroll	真空切りの巻物
Herb of Revival	復活の草	Jar of Holding	保存の壺	Bufu's Staff	フーの杖	Scroll of Explosion	自爆の巻物
Herb of Victory	無敵草	Monster Jar	魔物のるつぼ	Doppelganger Staff	身がわりの杖	Scroll of Identity	識別の巻物
Herb of Sight	めぐすり草	Jar of Hiding	やりすごしの壺	Lightning Staff	雷光の杖	Scroll of Confusion	混乱の巻物
Medicinal Herb	薬草	Unbreakable Jar	割れない壺			Scroll of Need	困った時の巻物
						Scroll of Silence	くちなしの巻物
						Scroll of Blessing	おはらいの巻物
						Riceball	おにぎりの巻物
						Great Hall Scroll	大部屋の巻物

Traps

Sprite	Trap		Spawn Floor	Appearance Floors
	Japanese	English
	Wood Arrow Trap	木の矢のワナ	1	1 - 5
	Stumble Trap	転び石のワナ		1 - 99
	Unequip Trap	装備はずしのワナ		1 - 99
	Alarm Trap	警報スイッチのワナ		1 - 99
	Summons Trap	召喚スイッチのワナ		1 - 99
	Multiplication Trap	罠増え		1 - 99
	Pitfall Trap	落し穴のワナ		1 - 99
	Spring Trap	バネのワナ		1 - 99
	Log Trap	丸太のワナ		1 - 99
	Spinning Trap	回転板のワナ		1 - 99
	Dream Gas Trap	幻覚ガス		1 - 99
	Sleeping Gas Trap	睡眠ガス		1 - 99
	Slowness Trap	鈍足スイッチ		1 - 99
	Immobilization Trap	カゲぬいのワナ		1 - 99
	Hunger Trap	空腹スイッチのワナ		1 - 99
	Poison Dart Trap	毒矢のワナ		1 - 99
	Landmine Trap	地雷のワナ		1 - 99
	Big Landmine Trap	大型地雷のワナ		1 - 99
	Riceball Trap	おにぎり		1 - 99
	Curse Trap	呪いのワナ		1 - 99
	Iron Arrow Trap	鉄の矢のワナ	6	6 - 10
	Rusty Trap	サビのワナ		6 - 99
	Rotten Trap	デロデロのワナ		6 - 99
	Boulder Trap	落石スイッチのワナ	11	11 - 99
	Stairway Trap	階段のワナ	90	90 - 99

In Other Languages

Language		Name
English		Final Puzzle
Japanese		フェイの最終問題

References

• This chart was compiled from Gabikun's monsters FAQ on on GameFAQs. Gabikun used a guide made by Chunsoft when making his FAQ.
• Exact trap spawn locations and special monster house info.