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{{About|changes from the original Super Famicom release and the Nintendo DS remake|differences between versions of Shiren 1 DS|Shiren 1 DS:Version Differences}}
{{About|changes from the original Super Famicom release and the Nintendo DS remake|differences between versions of Shiren 1 DS|Shiren 1 DS:Version Differences}}


The ''Nintendo DS'' remake of Shiren 1 contains numerous differences from the ''{{Meta|Super Famicom}}'' release of ''{{Shiren1SFC|Mystery Dungeon 2: Shiren the Wanderer}}''{{UT}}.
The ''Nintendo DS'' remake of Shiren 1 contains numerous differences from the ''{{Meta|Super Famicom}}'' release of {{Shiren1SFCTitle}}.


==Major and Minor Changes==
==Major and Minor Changes==
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====Bosses====
====Bosses====
* The {{Shiren1DS|Tainted Insect}} offers 7,777 experience points, down from 9,999.
* The {{Shiren1DS|Tainted Insect}} offers 9,999 experience points, up from 7,777.


====Levels====
====Levels====
* The DS remake added a fourth level on most {{Shiren1DS|Monsters}} as in the original game, {{Shiren1SFC|monsters}} only had three levels.
* The DS remake added a fourth level on most {{Shiren1DS|Monster}}s as in the original game, {{Shiren1SFC|monster}}s only had three levels.
** Only a selected few families such as the {{Shiren1DS|Fluffy Bunny}} remains with one level.
** Only a selected few families such as the {{Shiren1DS|Fluffy Bunny}} remains with one level.
** A fourth monster was also added to the {{Shiren1DS|Popster Tank Family}}.
** A fourth monster was also added to the {{Shiren1DS|Popster Tank Family}}.
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====Fay's Puzzles====
====Fay's Puzzles====
* All fifty of {{Shiren1DS|Fay's Puzzles}} are available from the start whereas before you can only do one puzzle per peradventure and cycle through when the player beats them all.
* All fifty of {{Shiren1DS|Fay's Puzzles}} are available from the start whereas before you can only do one puzzle per per adventure and cycle through when the player beats them all.


====Fay's Final Puzzle unlock requirements.====
====Fay's Final Puzzle unlock requirements.====
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====Scroll Cave and Kitchen God====
====Scroll Cave and Kitchen God====
* Shiren's stats were reverted back to default by entering them before. In the DS version, however, the player can retain his level for these dungeons as well as increase his maximum {{Shiren|Fullness}} and {{Shiren|Strength}}.
* Shiren's stats were reverted back to default by entering them before. In the DS version, however, the player can retain his level for these dungeons as well as increase his maximum {{Shiren|Fullness}} and {{Shiren|Strength}}.
* In the original game, the player needs to * complete* the {{Shiren1SFC|Shrine of the Food God}}{{UT}} if they met {{Shiren1SFC||Naoki the Wandering Chef}} at floor 25 and {{Shiren1SFC|Cave of the Wall Scroll}}{{UT}} if he met {{Shiren1SFC|Gaibara the Legendary Potter}} at floor 15 to unlock {{Shiren1SFC|Fei's Final Problem}}{{UT}}. It was balanced so the player only need to visit both in the DS remake.
* In the original game, the player needs to complete the {{Shiren1SFC|Kitchen God}} if they met {{Shiren1SFC|Naoki the Wandering Chef}} at floor 25 and {{Shiren1SFC|Scroll Cave}} if he met {{Shiren1SFC|Gaibara the Legendary Potter}} at floor 15 to unlock {{Shiren1SFC|Fay's Final Puzzle}}{{UT}}. It was balanced so the player only need to visit both in the DS remake.
* Trap Multiplier
* Trap Multiplier
** For more information on how the trap multiplier works, see the dungeon page: {{Shiren1DS|Scroll Cave}}<sup>DS</sup>.
** For more information on how the trap multiplier works, see the dungeon page: {{Shiren1DS|Scroll Cave}}<sup>DS</sup>.
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* Originally stationary characters in the SFC release cannot be bypassed by holding B, and do not move. While all characters will pursue Shiren when provoked in the DS release.
* Originally stationary characters in the SFC release cannot be bypassed by holding B, and do not move. While all characters will pursue Shiren when provoked in the DS release.


===Quets===
===Quests===
{{Shiren Stub Section}}
{{Shiren 1 DS Stub Section}}
New quests have been added in the remake.
New quests have been added in the remake.


===Traps===
===Traps===
====Generated Spawns====
====Generated Spawns====
* {{Shiren1DS|Traps}} generally seen as more dangerous spawn earlier on in the main adventure in the SFC release than they do in the DS remake.
* {{Shiren1DS|Trap}}s generally seen as more dangerous spawn earlier on in the main adventure in the SFC release than they do in the DS remake.


====Creation====
====Creation====
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<gallery>
<gallery>
|Super Famicom
| Super Famicom
Shiren 1 DS - Kabra Reborn (original).png | Nintendo DS - Japanese Release
Shiren 1 DS - Kabra Reborn (original).png | Nintendo DS - Japanese Release
Shiren 1 DS - Kabra Reborn.png            | Nintendo DS - Western Release
Shiren 1 DS - Kabra Reborn.png            | Nintendo DS - Western Release
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''See also:
''See also:


* ''{{Shiren1SFC|Removed and Unused content}}'' (SFC)
* ''{{Shiren1SFC|Removed and Unused Content}}'' (SFC)
* ''{{Shiren1DS|Removed and Unused content}}'' (NDS)
* ''{{Shiren1DS|Removed and Unused Content}}'' (NDS)


* Content from the SFC release that was not carried over to the DS remake.
* Content from the SFC release that was not carried over to the DS remake.
** The 分裂の壷 <small>{{ENnb|Jar of Division}}</small> is absent from the DS remake.
** The {{Shiren1SFC|Division Jar}}{{UT}} {{JAnb|分裂の壷||}} is absent from the DS remake.
** The 壷増大の巻物 <small>{{ENnb|Jar Growth Scroll}}</small> allowed the player to add a slot to a jar. It could be used as up to ten times for one jar. It was removed from the DS remake but makes a return in other games like ''{{Shiren3Wii|Shiren 3}}''.
** The {{Shiren1SFC|Jar Growth Scroll}} {{JAnb|壷増大の巻物||}} <sup>{{ENnb|Jar Growth Scroll}}</sup> allowed the player to add a slot to a jar. It could be used as up to ten times for one jar. It was removed from the DS remake but makes a return in other games like ''{{Shiren|Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer 3 - The Sleeping Princess and the Karakuri Mansion|Shiren 3}}''.
** The やまびこの盾 <small>{{ENnb|Echo shield}}</small> is a shield that reflects magical attacks. It was removed from the DS remake.
** The {{Shiren1SFC|Echo Shield}}{{UT}} {{JAnb|やまびこの盾||}} is a shield that reflects magical attacks. It was removed from the DS remake.
** The レベル固定の腕輪 <small>{{ENnb|Level Fix Armband}}</small> is an armband that fixes the player's current level and cannot decrease nor increase it from a trap or a status. It was removed from the DS remake.
** The {{Shiren1SFC|Levelholder|Levelholder Armband}}{{UT}} {{JAnb|レベル固定の腕輪||}} is an armband that fixes the player's current level and cannot decrease nor increase it from a trap or a status. It was removed from the DS remake.


==Exclusive Content==
==Exclusive Content==
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===Monsters===
===Monsters===
:''See the category: {{Shiren1DS|Monsters}}.''
:''See the category: {{Shiren1DS|Monster}}s.''


====Families====
====Families====
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===Characters===
===Characters===
====Borg Mamel====
====Borg Mamel====
* The DS remake added the {{Shiren1DS|Borg Mamel}} Character character as a companion for clearing Fay's Final Puzzle.  
* The DS remake added the {{Shiren1DS|Borg Mamel}} Character character as a companion for clearing Fay's Final Puzzle.


===Locations===
===Locations===
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===={{Shiren1DS|Backtracking}}====
===={{Shiren1DS|Backtracking}}====
* The player can backtrack for the first fourteen floors of the main adventure; up to {{Shiren1DS|Cryptic Rock Valley}} This can allow the player to return back to Canyon Hamlet or the two towns in between to visit {{Shiren1DS|Shops}} and store items. It also makes for a quick escape when stealing from the {{Shiren1DS|Bamboo Village}} shop.
* The player can backtrack for the first fourteen floors of the main adventure; up to {{Shiren1DS|Cryptic Rock Valley}} This can allow the player to return back to Canyon Hamlet or the two towns in between to visit {{Shiren1DS|Shop}}s and store items. It also makes for a quick escape when stealing from the {{Shiren1DS|Bamboo Village}} shop.


===Items===
===Items===
* Many items were introduced to the DS remake that were not present in either the original game or in the past:
* Many items were introduced to the DS remake that were not present in either the original game or in the past:
** {{Shiren1DS|Riceball Scroll}} <small>{{JA|おにぎりの巻物}}</small> is a scroll added to the DS remake. When used, it turns a selected item into a  Big Riceball.
** {{Shiren1DS|Riceball Scroll}} <small>{{JA|おにぎりの巻物}}</small> is a scroll added to the DS remake. When used, it turns a selected item into a  Big Riceball.
** {{Shiren1DS|Super Trap Scroll}} <small>{{JA|ワナがけの巻物}}</small> is a scroll added to the DS remake. When used, it causes [[:Category:Floating-Type Monsters|Floating-Type Monsters]] to be vulnerable to traps.
** {{Shiren1DS|Super Trap Scroll}} <small>{{JA|ワナがけの巻物}}</small> is a scroll added to the DS remake. When used, it causes {{Shiren1DS|Floating-type}} Monsters to be vulnerable to traps.
** {{Shiren1DS|Scroll of Chains}} <small>{{JA|連鎖の巻物}}</small> is a scroll added to the DS remake. When used it prevents the multiplier from monsters stepping on traps from decreasing when stepping on trapless squares.
** {{Shiren1DS|Scroll of Chains}} <small>{{JA|連鎖の巻物}}</small> is a scroll added to the DS remake. When used it prevents the multiplier from monsters stepping on traps from decreasing when stepping on trapless squares.
** {{Shiren1DS|Golden Blade}}  
** {{Shiren1DS|Golden Blade}}  
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* For completing rescues, the player has a chance to be rewarded with a rescue-only item. One item, the {{Shiren1DS|Curseless Armband}} <small>(Japanese 呪いよけの腕輪)</small> went from being a random drop in the SFC release to rescue only reward in the DS remake.
* For completing rescues, the player has a chance to be rewarded with a rescue-only item. One item, the {{Shiren1DS|Curseless Armband}} <small>(Japanese 呪いよけの腕輪)</small> went from being a random drop in the SFC release to rescue only reward in the DS remake.


===Main Menu===
===Top Menu===
* Along with the new dungeons, the DS remake received matching {{Shiren1DS|Main Menu}} icons:
* Along with the new dungeons, the DS remake received matching {{Shiren1DS|Top Menu}} icons:


[[File:Shiren 1 NDS Title Icon - Ceremonial Tave.png]][[File:Shiren 1 NDS Title Icon - Ravine of the Dead.png]][[File:Shiren 1 NDS Title Icon - Tainted Path.png]]
[[File:Shiren 1 DS - Top Menu Icon Ceremonial Tave.png]][[File:Shiren 1 DS - Top Menu Icon Ravine of the Dead.png]][[File:Shiren 1 DS - Top Menu Icon Tainted Path.png]]


==={{Shiren1DS|Rescues}}===
==={{Shiren1DS|Rescues}}===
* Brand new to the remake, the popular rescue mechanic first introduced in the Game Boy release of ''{{MoonlightVillageGB|Shiren the Wanderer GB: Monster of Moonlight Village}}'' returns.
* Brand new to the remake, the popular rescue mechanic first introduced in the Game Boy release of ''{{Shiren|Shiren the Wanderer GB - Monster of Moonlight Village}}'' returns.


===Wi-Fi===
===Wi-Fi===
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===Ranking===
===Ranking===
* In the DS remake, {{Shiren1SFC|Ranking Chief}}{{UT}}, his leaderboards in {{Shiren1SFC|Valley Inn}}{{UT}}, and the animations that play at the end of each {{Shiren1SFC|Adventure}} are absent.
* In the DS remake, {{Shiren1SFC|Ranking Chief}}{{UT}}, his leaderboards in {{Shiren1SFC|Canyon Hamlet}}, and the animations that play at the end of each {{Shiren1SFC|Adventure}} are absent.
** In the original SFC release, Fay claims the room they're in is Ranking Chief's. In the DS version he says that the room was lent to him instead.
** In the original SFC release, Fay claims the room they're in is Ranking Chief's. In the DS version he says that the room was lent to him instead.


==See Also==
==See Also==
{{Shiren 1 DS Gameplay Elements Navbox}}
{{Shiren 1 DS Meta Navbox}}


==References==
==References==
* <ref name=":0" /> Look far away ability in the Android Release. Timestamp: 2:59:14
* <ref>https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/風来のシレンのキャラクター一覧#旅仲間</ref> Some Japanese names and info thanks to the Japanese Wikipedia.
* <ref>https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/風来のシレンのキャラクター一覧#旅仲間</ref> Some Japanese names and info thanks to the Japanese Wikipedia.
* <ref>http://twist.jpn.org/sfcsiren/index.php?リメイク版%28ds1%29との違い</ref> SFC info thanks to Twist.Jpn.org
* <ref>http://twist.jpn.org/sfcsiren/index.php?リメイク版%28ds1%29との違い</ref> SFC info thanks to Twist.Jpn.org
* <ref>https://namu.wiki/w/풍래의%20시렌/등장%20아이템</ref> Fan translated Korean names and info on NDS and SFC exclusive items.  
* <ref>https://namu.wiki/w/풍래의%20시렌/등장%20아이템</ref> Fan translated Korean names and info on NDS and SFC exclusive items.
<references />


[[Category:Shiren the Wanderer (series) Version Differences]]
[[Category:Shiren the Wanderer (series) Version Differences]]
[[Category:Shiren 1 DS Gameplay Elements]]
[[Category:Shiren 1 DS Gameplay Elements]]

Latest revision as of 20:49, 21 March 2025

This Differences from the Super Famicom release page is about changes from the original Super Famicom release and the Nintendo DS remake. For differences between versions of Shiren 1 DS, see Shiren 1 DS:Version Differences.

The Nintendo DS remake of Shiren 1 contains numerous differences from the Super Famicom release of Super Famicom Mystery Dungeon 2: Shiren the Wanderer.

Major and Minor Changes

Monster

Monster Spawn Locations

  • Monsters have different spawn locations between the original SFC and DS releases of the game.

Bosses

Levels

  • The DS remake added a fourth level on most Monsters as in the original game, monsters only had three levels.

Locations

Towns

  • Players could enter the empty room that becomes the Mountaintop Town jar shop in the original game. This was removed on the DS remake.

Fay's Puzzles

  • All fifty of Fay's Puzzles are available from the start whereas before you can only do one puzzle per per adventure and cycle through when the player beats them all.

Fay's Final Puzzle unlock requirements.

  • The player was required to beat the Kitchen God and Scroll Cave to unlock Fay's Final Puzzle in the Super Famicom release. In the DS remake, the player only needs to visit them once but is first required to meet Naoki on floor 25 and Gaibara on floor 15.

Scroll Cave and Kitchen God

  • Shiren's stats were reverted back to default by entering them before. In the DS version, however, the player can retain his level for these dungeons as well as increase his maximum Fullness and Strength.
  • In the original game, the player needs to complete the Kitchen God if they met Naoki the Wandering Chef at floor 25 and Scroll Cave if he met Gaibara the Legendary Potter at floor 15 to unlock Fay's Final Puzzle(UT) - This is an unofficial translation.. It was balanced so the player only need to visit both in the DS remake.
  • Trap Multiplier
    • For more information on how the trap multiplier works, see the dungeon page: Scroll CaveDS.

Characters

  • In the SFC release, characters are not provoked when Shiren deals damage to them. They will not attack Shiren, and can still be talked to.
  • Originally stationary characters in the SFC release cannot be bypassed by holding B, and do not move. While all characters will pursue Shiren when provoked in the DS release.

Quests

New quests have been added in the remake.

Traps

Generated Spawns

  • Traps generally seen as more dangerous spawn earlier on in the main adventure in the SFC release than they do in the DS remake.

Creation

  • As a Mecharoid Family or when stepping on a Multiplication Trap, the player can change the trap placement by repeatedly making new ones that overwrite the old in the SFC release. This feature was removed in the DS remake.

Adventure Records

Scores

  • Scores are kept on a sign at Canyon Hamlet in the SFC release. For the DS remake, they are available from the top menu.

Save Files

  • The SFC release allows for three save files while the DS remake only allows one.

Shiren

See: Shiren.
  • Some gameplay balances were put to the protagonist of the game.
    • The maximum HP was raised from 250 to 999 HP in the DS remake.
    • The maximum level was raised from 70 to 99 in the DS remake.

Wagons

  • The wagons only traveled to the Bamboo Village and Mountaintop down and leave the player in front of the Kitchen God and Gaibara's pottery dojo respectively in the original game. In the DS remake, more town locations can be choosen.

Items

Cursed Armbands

  • Armbands provided their ability when cursed in the original game. This element was reverted in the remake.

Item ID'ing

  • Items are now auto-ID'ed when the player visits a town in the remake.

Item Upgrade level

  • The DS remake added maximum levels on items that could be leveled up to while the SFC release allowed any item to be leveled up to +99.

Doppelganger Staff

  • Doppelganger monsters would not revert to their leveled-up form upon defeating another monster before. It was reverted in the remake in addition to no longer being confused.

Kabra Reborn

  • The Kabra Reborn in the Super Famicom release is blue in color. When imported to the Nintendo DS, it was made to be more white in color. Additionally, the swastika hilt in the Japanese release was changed to a square shape in the western release.
  • Nintendo DS - Japanese Release

    Nintendo DS - Japanese Release

  • Nintendo DS - Western Release

    Nintendo DS - Western Release

Cut Content

See also:

  • Content from the SFC release that was not carried over to the DS remake.
    • The Division Jar(UT) - This is an unofficial translation. (Japanese: 分裂の壷) is absent from the DS remake.
    • The Jar Growth Scroll (Japanese: 壷増大の巻物) (English: Jar Growth Scroll) allowed the player to add a slot to a jar. It could be used as up to ten times for one jar. It was removed from the DS remake but makes a return in other games like Shiren 3.
    • The Echo Shield(UT) - This is an unofficial translation. (Japanese: やまびこの盾) is a shield that reflects magical attacks. It was removed from the DS remake.
    • The Levelholder Armband(UT) - This is an unofficial translation. (Japanese: レベル固定の腕輪) is an armband that fixes the player's current level and cannot decrease nor increase it from a trap or a status. It was removed from the DS remake.

Exclusive Content

The following lists above have exclusive options and modifications that were not present in the SFC release.

Monsters

See the category: Monsters.

Families

Bosses

Characters

Borg Mamel

  • The DS remake added the Borg Mamel Character character as a companion for clearing Fay's Final Puzzle.

Locations

Secret Passages

  • Running along walls in the DS remake will stop Shiren, indicating a secret passage.

Backtracking

  • The player can backtrack for the first fourteen floors of the main adventure; up to Cryptic Rock Valley This can allow the player to return back to Canyon Hamlet or the two towns in between to visit Shops and store items. It also makes for a quick escape when stealing from the Bamboo Village shop.

Items

Rescue Reward items

  • For completing rescues, the player has a chance to be rewarded with a rescue-only item. One item, the Curseless Armband (Japanese 呪いよけの腕輪) went from being a random drop in the SFC release to rescue only reward in the DS remake.

Top Menu

  • Along with the new dungeons, the DS remake received matching Top Menu icons:

File:Shiren 1 DS - Top Menu Icon Ceremonial Tave.pngShiren 1 DS - Top Menu Icon Ravine of the Dead.pngShiren 1 DS - Top Menu Icon Tainted Path.png

Rescues

Wi-Fi

  • The remake features Wi-Fi leader boards and rescues. This included friend codes, monthly, and all-time leaderboards.

Adventure Log

Ranking

  • In the DS remake, Ranking Chief(UT) - This is an unofficial translation., his leaderboards in Canyon Hamlet, and the animations that play at the end of each Adventure are absent.
    • In the original SFC release, Fay claims the room they're in is Ranking Chief's. In the DS version he says that the room was lent to him instead.

See Also

v • d • e
Nintendo DS Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer - Meta
Commercials • Flowers Dancing in the Golden Town Amteca(UT) - This is an unofficial translation. (Novella) • Manuals • News Archive • Playable Platforms • Rosetta Stone • SEGA Wi-Fi Shut Down Notice • Soundtrack • Staff Credits • Transcripts (English Text Dump)

References

  • [1] Some Japanese names and info thanks to the Japanese Wikipedia.
  • [2] SFC info thanks to Twist.Jpn.org
  • [3] Fan translated Korean names and info on NDS and SFC exclusive items.
  1. ↑ https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/風来のシレンのキャラクター一覧#旅仲間
  2. ↑ http://twist.jpn.org/sfcsiren/index.php?リメイク版%28ds1%29との違い
  3. ↑ https://namu.wiki/w/풍래의%20시렌/등장%20아이템
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