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** '''{{DragonQuest|Dragon Quest Mystery Dungeon|Dragon Quest}}''': Briny Mine enemies work similarly to Spike Bombs. | ** '''{{DragonQuest|Dragon Quest Mystery Dungeon|Dragon Quest}}''': Briny Mine enemies work similarly to Spike Bombs. | ||
** '''{{Shiren|Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer|Shiren}}''': Spike Bombs explode when they're at low health and are attacked but not killed. | ** '''{{Shiren|Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer|Shiren}}''': Spike Bombs explode when they're at low health and are attacked but not killed. | ||
** '''{{Final Fantasy|Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon|Final Fantasy}}''': In Chocobo's Dungeon 2, Bomb | ** '''{{Final Fantasy|Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon|Final Fantasy}}''': In Chocobo's Dungeon 2, Bomb Species monsters will begin to charge up an explosion attack after they take damage. If the bombs are not defeated before the charge meter fills up, they will explode and destroy the 8 adjacent tiles. | ||
** '''{{Pkmn|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon}}''': Pokémon such as Electrode can learn explosion moves. Stunky/Skuntank and Drifloon/Drifblim have the ability aftermath, which has a closer effect to the Spike Bomb family. | ** '''{{Pkmn|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon}}''': Pokémon such as Electrode can learn explosion moves. Stunky/Skuntank and Drifloon/Drifblim have the ability aftermath, which has a closer effect to the Spike Bomb family. | ||
*** In Super MD, Explosion and Self-Destruct were changed to self-destruct as a counter to damage. | *** In Super MD, Explosion and Self-Destruct were changed to self-destruct as a counter to damage. | ||
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** '''{{Pkmn|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon}}''': This is similar to the abilities Speed Boost, Unburden, Chlorophyll, and Swift Swim; and the moves Rock Polish, Agility, Tailwind, and Shell Smash. | ** '''{{Pkmn|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon}}''': This is similar to the abilities Speed Boost, Unburden, Chlorophyll, and Swift Swim; and the moves Rock Polish, Agility, Tailwind, and Shell Smash. | ||
*** The Moves Double Hit, Twineedle, and Double Kick, hit twice in one turn, and the moves triple hit and triple kick hit thrice in one turn. | *** The Moves Double Hit, Twineedle, and Double Kick, hit twice in one turn, and the moves triple hit and triple kick hit thrice in one turn. | ||
** '''{{Final Fantasy|Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon|Final Fantasy}}''': In Chocobo's Dungeon 2, the Field Rat Species can increase their movement speed from single speed to double speed | |||
* '''<big>Monsters that cause the player status conditions.</big>''' | * '''<big>Monsters that cause the player status conditions.</big>''' | ||
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** '''{{Shiren|Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer|Shiren}}''': Baby Tengu Family disguises themselves as other monsters. Various other decoys exist. See {{Shiren|Decoy Mechanics}}. | ** '''{{Shiren|Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer|Shiren}}''': Baby Tengu Family disguises themselves as other monsters. Various other decoys exist. See {{Shiren|Decoy Mechanics}}. | ||
** '''{{Pkmn|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon}}''': Ditto does this in Rescue Team, Explorers, {{Research}}. In Gates and Super MD, this is relegated to the Zorua family. | ** '''{{Pkmn|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon}}''': Ditto does this in Rescue Team, Explorers, {{Research}}. In Gates and Super MD, this is relegated to the Zorua family. | ||
* '''<big>Enemies disguise themselves as items.</big>''' | * '''<big>Enemies disguise themselves as items.</big>''' | ||
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** '''{{Shiren|Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer|Shiren}}''': Schubell Family rings a bell and summon other monsters. | ** '''{{Shiren|Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer|Shiren}}''': Schubell Family rings a bell and summon other monsters. | ||
** '''{{Pkmn|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon}}''': The move Beat Up summons a Pokémon's allies to them. Additionally, in Explorers T/D and Sky, the ability "Illuminate" summons an enemy to the floor whenever the enemy takes damage. | ** '''{{Pkmn|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon}}''': The move Beat Up summons a Pokémon's allies to them. Additionally, in Explorers T/D and Sky, the ability "Illuminate" summons an enemy to the floor whenever the enemy takes damage. | ||
** '''{{Final Fantasy|Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon|Final Fantasy}}''': In Chocobo 2, the Puppteer Species can summon other monsters. | |||
* '''<big>Picking up and throwing the player.</big>''' | * '''<big>Picking up and throwing the player.</big>''' | ||
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* '''<big>Shopkeepers in Mystery Dungeon have extremely high stats.</big>''' | * '''<big>Shopkeepers in Mystery Dungeon have extremely high stats.</big>''' | ||
** '''{{Shiren|Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer|Shiren}}''': Shopkeepers train specifically for the job. | ** '''{{Shiren|Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer|Shiren}}''': Shopkeepers train specifically for the job. | ||
** '''{{Final Fantasy|Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon|Final Fantasy}}''': In Chocobo's Dungeon 2, | ** '''{{Final Fantasy|Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon|Final Fantasy}}''': In Chocobo's Dungeon 2, Doom takes the role of shopkeeper, and will attack the player if they steal or spend too much time on a floor. In Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon 3, Dungeon Hero X acts as the shopkeeper and will attack if you try to steal the bag from his shop. | ||
** '''{{Pkmn|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon}}''': Keclecon takes the role of shopkeeper. | ** '''{{Pkmn|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon}}''': Keclecon takes the role of shopkeeper. | ||
*** Starting from {{Gates|Gates to Infinity}}, the shop takes up the entire room. | *** Starting from {{Gates|Gates to Infinity}}, the shop takes up the entire room. | ||
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** '''{{DragonQuest|Dragon Quest Mystery Dungeon|Dragon Quest}}''': Healslime. | ** '''{{DragonQuest|Dragon Quest Mystery Dungeon|Dragon Quest}}''': Healslime. | ||
** '''{{Shiren|Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer|Shiren}}''': Fluffy Bunny family, Flamebird Family. | ** '''{{Shiren|Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer|Shiren}}''': Fluffy Bunny family, Flamebird Family. | ||
** '''{{Final Fantasy|Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon|Final Fantasy}}''': The Magic Pot Family in Chocobo 2 heals other enemies. | |||
** '''{{Pkmn|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon}}''': Delibird in Super MD. | ** '''{{Pkmn|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon}}''': Delibird in Super MD. | ||
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* '''<big>Enemies degrade equipment.</big>''' | * '''<big>Enemies degrade equipment.</big>''' | ||
** '''{{Shiren|Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer|Shiren}}''': Green Slime Family | ** '''{{Shiren|Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer|Shiren}}''': Green Slime Family | ||
** '''{{Pkmn|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon}}''': Gastro Acid destroys the | ** '''{{Pkmn|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon}}''': Gastro Acid destroys the emeras on your looplets. | ||
* '''<big>Fire-based enemies incinerate items when thrown.</big>''' | * '''<big>Fire-based enemies incinerate items when thrown.</big>''' | ||
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* '''<big>Enemies decrease fullness points.</big>''' | * '''<big>Enemies decrease fullness points.</big>''' | ||
** '''{{Shiren|Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer|Shiren}}''': Polygon Spin Family sap Shiren of his fullness. As does the Blue Lanternfish{{FT}} monster family. | ** '''{{Shiren|Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer|Shiren}}''': Polygon Spin Family sap Shiren of his fullness. As does the Blue Lanternfish{{FT}} monster family. | ||
** '''{{Final Fantasy|Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon|Final Fantasy}}''': The Mummy Species in Chocobo's Dungeon 2 can decrease Chocobo's Energy by 10. | |||
** '''{{Pkmn|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon}}''': Sweet Scent in Super MD may occasionally decrease fullness. | ** '''{{Pkmn|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon}}''': Sweet Scent in Super MD may occasionally decrease fullness. | ||
* '''<big>Enemies fire random spells at the player.</big>''' | * '''<big>Enemies fire random spells at the player.</big>''' | ||
** '''{{Shiren|Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer|Shiren}}''': Skull Mage Family fires random magical attacks at the player. (From a select pool of staff abilities.) | ** '''{{Shiren|Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer|Shiren}}''': Skull Mage Family fires random magical attacks at the player. (From a select pool of staff abilities.) | ||
** '''{{Final Fantasy|Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon|Final Fantasy}}''': In Chocobo's Dungeon 2, the | ** '''{{Final Fantasy|Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon|Final Fantasy}}''': In Chocobo's Dungeon 2, the Black Mage Species casts random spells at the player when its {{Chocobo2|ATB Meter}} fills up fully. | ||
** '''{{Pkmn|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon}}''': Braixen and Delphox in Super MD now have this ability. | ** '''{{Pkmn|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon}}''': Braixen and Delphox in Super MD now have this ability. | ||
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** '''{{DragonQuest|Dragon Quest Mystery Dungeon|Dragon Quest}}''': Bag o' laughs steals currency and warp away. | ** '''{{DragonQuest|Dragon Quest Mystery Dungeon|Dragon Quest}}''': Bag o' laughs steals currency and warp away. | ||
** '''{{Shiren|Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer|Shiren}}''': Pickpocket Family steals currency and warp away. Thiefwalrus Family steals items and warp away. The Crow Minion Family steals items, warps away, and leaves them under a pile of feathers that require a staff bolt to uncover. | ** '''{{Shiren|Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer|Shiren}}''': Pickpocket Family steals currency and warp away. Thiefwalrus Family steals items and warp away. The Crow Minion Family steals items, warps away, and leaves them under a pile of feathers that require a staff bolt to uncover. | ||
** '''{{Final Fantasy|Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon|Final Fantasy}}''': The Thief Species in Chocobo's Dungeon 2 can steal Chocobo's items and warp away. | |||
** '''{{Pkmn|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon}}''': Thief / Covet allow a foe to warp away after a successful theft in Super MD. | ** '''{{Pkmn|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon}}''': Thief / Covet allow a foe to warp away after a successful theft in Super MD. | ||
Revision as of 19:24, 2 January 2022
Monster Mechanics in Mystery Dungeon are often re-used by other games or series in the franchise. This page aims to illustrate as many of these similarities as possible.
Monsters
- Monsters attack from a distance.
- Monsters move through walls.
- Dragon Quest: Spirit can move through walls.
- Shiren: Pacorepkin Family can move through walls.
- Pokémon: Certain Ghost-Types in PMD can move through walls. Non-Ghost-Types can equip a Mobile Scarf for the same effect.
- Monsters cause the player to be unable to heal.
- Monsters place traps.
- Monsters leave a trap when they die.
- Shiren: Trap NinTemplate:FT family leave a trap when they die.
- Pokémon: While not exactly like Shiren, the PMD ability Aftermath is similar. Causing the enemy to explode when they faint.
- Enemies cause explosions.
- Dragon Quest: Briny Mine enemies work similarly to Spike Bombs.
- Shiren: Spike Bombs explode when they're at low health and are attacked but not killed.
- Template:Final Fantasy: In Chocobo's Dungeon 2, Bomb Species monsters will begin to charge up an explosion attack after they take damage. If the bombs are not defeated before the charge meter fills up, they will explode and destroy the 8 adjacent tiles.
- Pokémon: Pokémon such as Electrode can learn explosion moves. Stunky/Skuntank and Drifloon/Drifblim have the ability aftermath, which has a closer effect to the Spike Bomb family.
- In Super MD, Explosion and Self-Destruct were changed to self-destruct as a counter to damage.
- Higher chance of critical hits.
- Monsters toss stones in an arc.
- Knock the player's items and armor off.
- Dragon Quest: Merderer knocks Torneko's and Paolo's items off. Items will be sent flying across the room until they land in water, on the ground, or into an enemy (item is destroyed).
- Shiren: Cell Armor Family knocks Shiren's items off. Items will be sent flying across the room until they land in water, on the ground, or into an enemy (item is destroyed).
- Pokémon: The move Knock Off in PMD has a similar effect. But items won't directly be lost if they hit another target.
- Monsters attack 2 times or more in one turn or move at increased speed.
- Shiren: Various monsters have double speed and can move twice in one turn, or move once and attack once in one turn.
- Knifegator Family are able to attack 2 or more times a turn.
- Certain Monsters such as Gitan Mamels and Level 2 - 4 Death Reaper Family can move or attack twice in one turn, or move once and attack once (double movement + attack speed)
- Pokémon: This is similar to the abilities Speed Boost, Unburden, Chlorophyll, and Swift Swim; and the moves Rock Polish, Agility, Tailwind, and Shell Smash.
- The Moves Double Hit, Twineedle, and Double Kick, hit twice in one turn, and the moves triple hit and triple kick hit thrice in one turn.
- Template:Final Fantasy: In Chocobo's Dungeon 2, the Field Rat Species can increase their movement speed from single speed to double speed
- Shiren: Various monsters have double speed and can move twice in one turn, or move once and attack once in one turn.
- Monsters that cause the player status conditions.
- Dragon Quest: Many monsters such as Man'o War can cast an attack which would cause various status conditions.
- Shiren: Ghost Radish Family tosses herbs at players that cause various status conditions. Other enemies such as the Gaze Family and the Naptapir Family can also inflict status effects.
- Pokémon: This is similar to the various moves Pokémon might inflict on the player.
- Monsters disguise themselves as others. (Decoy)
- Shiren: Baby Tengu Family disguises themselves as other monsters. Various other decoys exist. See Decoy Mechanics.
- Pokémon: Ditto does this in Rescue Team, Explorers, [Research required]. In Gates and Super MD, this is relegated to the Zorua family.
- Enemies disguise themselves as items.
- Transform into monsters.
- Various monsters destroy, damage, or replace inventory items.
- Monsters summon other monsters.
- Shiren: Schubell Family rings a bell and summon other monsters.
- Pokémon: The move Beat Up summons a Pokémon's allies to them. Additionally, in Explorers T/D and Sky, the ability "Illuminate" summons an enemy to the floor whenever the enemy takes damage.
- Template:Final Fantasy: In Chocobo 2, the Puppteer Species can summon other monsters.
- Picking up and throwing the player.
- Shiren: Tiger Uho Family picks Shiren up and throws him across the room or floor. Throw BeetleTemplate:FT do the same thing.
- Pokémon: Rescue Team: Vital throw as a counterattack. Explorers TD onward: Fling serves this purpose.
- Monsters knock players back.
- Shopkeepers in Mystery Dungeon have extremely high stats.
- Shiren: Shopkeepers train specifically for the job.
- Template:Final Fantasy: In Chocobo's Dungeon 2, Doom takes the role of shopkeeper, and will attack the player if they steal or spend too much time on a floor. In Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon 3, Dungeon Hero X acts as the shopkeeper and will attack if you try to steal the bag from his shop.
- Pokémon: Keclecon takes the role of shopkeeper.
- Starting from Gates to Infinity, the shop takes up the entire room.
- Items or attacks pierce targets.
- Enemies swarm.
- Dragon Quest: Powie Yowies sleep in a swarm of 4.
- Shiren: Floaty Family sleeps in a swarm of 3.
- Pokémon: Ledyba Family sleeps in a swarm of 4.
- Enemies level up when they defeat the player or another monster.
- Shiren: Standard Shiren mechanic.
- Template:Final Fantasy: Standard mechanic in Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon 1 and 2
- Pokémon: First introduced in the Adventure Squad titles.
- Enemies in Gates can level up via. Joy Seeds.
- Enemies respawn after death, level up other monsters.
- Shiren: When you kill an Evil Soldier, several turns later a member of the Dead Soldier Family will spawn.
- Pokémon: This role is filled by Shedinja. It spawns when Nincada is defeated. Other monsters will attempt to defeat it to level up.
- Monsters attempting to defeat it to level up is similar to the Chow Family in Shiren.
- Enemies go around the player and appear on the other side.
- Monsters that act as healers.
- Dragon Quest: Healslime.
- Shiren: Fluffy Bunny family, Flamebird Family.
- Template:Final Fantasy: The Magic Pot Family in Chocobo 2 heals other enemies.
- Pokémon: Delibird in Super MD.
- Enemies hypnotize the plyer.
- Enemies degrade equipment.
- Fire-based enemies incinerate items when thrown.
- Explosions that cause splash damage.
- Enemies hold you in place.
- Enemies decrease fullness points.
- Shiren: Polygon Spin Family sap Shiren of his fullness. As does the Blue LanternfishTemplate:FT monster family.
- Template:Final Fantasy: The Mummy Species in Chocobo's Dungeon 2 can decrease Chocobo's Energy by 10.
- Pokémon: Sweet Scent in Super MD may occasionally decrease fullness.
- Enemies fire random spells at the player.
- Shiren: Skull Mage Family fires random magical attacks at the player. (From a select pool of staff abilities.)
- Template:Final Fantasy: In Chocobo's Dungeon 2, the Black Mage Species casts random spells at the player when its ATB Meter fills up fully.
- Pokémon: Braixen and Delphox in Super MD now have this ability.
- Enemies dig through dungeon walls.
- Shiren: Soldier Ant Family digs through walls in Shiren.
- Pokémon: In PMD, players could tunnel through walls with a high enough IQ in Rescue Team, with a high enough IQ in the right IQ group (Explorers) or via the TM Rock Smash. In Super MD, Sawks can smash through walls, as well as other Pokémon that knows Rock Smash.
- Enemies steal items and warp away.
- Dragon Quest: Bag o' laughs steals currency and warp away.
- Shiren: Pickpocket Family steals currency and warp away. Thiefwalrus Family steals items and warp away. The Crow Minion Family steals items, warps away, and leaves them under a pile of feathers that require a staff bolt to uncover.
- Template:Final Fantasy: The Thief Species in Chocobo's Dungeon 2 can steal Chocobo's items and warp away.
- Pokémon: Thief / Covet allow a foe to warp away after a successful theft in Super MD.
- Enemies can gunk up (curse) items.
- Remove enemies from the dungeon.
Other
See also
Cross Series Mechanics in the Mystery Dungeon Franchise | |
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Cross Series Mechanics | Adventure Log • Cross-Series References (References in other media) • Dungeon Tiles • Evolution of: (Dungeon Maps • Thief Dialogue) • Failure Event |
References
- [1] Enemy Roles from Shiren to PMD and PSMD. (December 6, 2015)
- Thanks to user /user/Aw_ on Reddit for the post idea and initial batch of research.
- [2] Thanks to user /user/Amphouse for the additional notes in the comments of the original post
- Interestingly the original post used our OG Wiki as a source. See: Shiren the Wanderer Wetpaint Wiki. though the links on Reddit are dead.
- [3] Shiren references within PSMD. (December 10, 2015)
- [4] Thanks for a similar posy by the /user/Theguesst on Reddit.
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