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==Items==
==Items==
* Staffs.
* Staves and Wands.
** '''DQMD''': Torneko's Great Adventure has Wands, multi-use inoms which fire a ranged blast with varying effects.
** '''DQMD''': Torneko's Great Adventure has Wands, multi-use inoms which fire a ranged blast with varying effects.
** '''Shiren''': Shiren has Staves, which were functionally identical to wands in DQMD.
** '''Shiren''': Shiren has Staves, which were functionally identical to wands in DQMD.

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Monster Mechanics in Mystery Dungeon are often re-used by other games or series in the franchise. This pages aims to illustrate as many of these similarities as possible.

Monsters

  • Monsters attack from a distance.
    • Shiren: Chainhead's can attack from a distance using their heads.
      • Shiren can obtain some items which allow him to attack from a distance.
    • PMD: This is similar to moves like Quick Attack.
  • Monsters move through walls.
    • Shiren: Pacorepkin Family can move through walls.
    • PMD: Ghosts in PMD can move through walls. Non-ghost types can equip a Pass Scarf for the same effect.
  • Monsters cause the player to be unable to heal.
    • Shiren: Fog Hermit Family fire spells from their magic staves that prevent the player from healing.
    • PMD: This effect first appeared in Explorers TD in the form of Heal Block.
  • Monsters place traps.
    • Shiren: Mecharoid Family monsters place traps as their special ability.
    • PMD: In PMD, moves such as Toxic Spikes and Stealth Rock do this.
  • Monsters leave a trap when they die.
    • Shiren: Trap Nin Template:FT family leave a trap when they die.
    • PMD: While not exactly like Shiren, the PMD ability Aftermath is similar. Causing the enemy to explode when they faint.
  • Enemies cause explosions.
    • DQMD: Briny mine enemies work similarly to Spike Bombs.
    • Shiren: Spike Bombs explode when they're in low health and are attacked.
    • PMD: Pokémon such as Electrode can learn explosion moves. Skuntank, Drifloon, and possibly others may have the ability aftermath, which has a closer effect to the Spike Bomb family.
      • In PMD: Super, Explosion and Self-Destruct were changed to self-destruct as a counter to damage.
  • Higher chance of critical hits.
    • Shiren: Minotaur's Axe's have a high chance to land a critical hit.
    • PMD: In PMD, everything has a higher chance to land a critical hit.
  • Monsters toss stones in an arc.
    • Shiren: Piggy Family toss stones in an arc.
    • PMD: Gravelrocks.
  • Knock the player's items and armor off.
    • Shiren: Cell Armor Family knocks Shiren's items off. Items will be sent flying across the room until they land in water, on the ground or into an enemy (item is destroyed).
    • PMD: The move Knock Off in PMD has a similar effect. But items won't directly be lost if they hit another target.
  • Monsters attack 2 times or more in one turn or move at increased speed.
    • Shiren: Death Reaper Family moves at increased speed. Knifegator Family are able to attack 2 or more times a turn.
    • PMD: This is similar to the ability Speed Boost, Rock Polish, Agility, Shell Smash, Unburden, Swift Swim.
  • Monsters that cause the player status conditions.
    • Shiren: Ghost Radish Family tosses herbs at players that cause various status conditions.
    • PMD: This is similar to the various moves Pokémon might inflict on the player.
  • Monsters disguise themselves as others. (Decoy)
    • Shiren: Baby Tengu Family disguise themselves as other monsters. Various other decoys exist. See Decoy Mechanics.
    • PMD: Ditto does this in Rescue Team, Explorers, [Research required]. In Super, this is relegated to the Zorua family.
  • Enemies disguise themselves as items.
    • Shiren: Too many to list. See Shiren:Decoy Mechanics.
    • PMD: Ditto in PMD: Super acts as the traditional decoy now. It can't be picked up like in some Shiren titles.
  • Transform into monsters.
    • Shiren: Shiren is able to eat meat to transform into monsters.
    • PMD: In Super MD, Transform works by allowing the player to transform into the enemy. Similarly to meat.
  • Various monsters destroy, damage, steal or replace inventory items.
    • Shiren: Too many to list.
    • PMD: Starting in Explorers TD moves such as Bug Bite, Pluck, Incinerate have the same general effect.
  • Summon other Monsters
    • Shiren: Schubell Family rings a bell and summon other monsters.
    • PMD: The move Beat Up.
  • Picking up and throwing the player.
    • Shiren: Tiger Uho Family picks Shiren up and throws him across the room or floor. Throw Beetle Template:FT do the same thing.
    • PMD: Rescue Team: Vital throw as a counterattack. Explorers TD onward: Fling serves this purpose.
  • Fixed Fire damage.
    • Shiren: Firepuff Family.
    • PMD: Dragon Rage
  • Knock players back
    • Shiren: Dremlas Family knocks Shiren back.
    • PMD: Roar / Whirlwind in PMD.
  • Shopkeepers in Mystery Dungeon have extremely high stats.
    • Shiren: Shopkeepers train specifically for the job.
    • PMD: Keclecon takes the role of shopkeeper.
      • In Super MD, the shop takes up the entire room.
  • Items or attacks pierce targets.
    • Shiren: Mini Tank's shoots silver arrows that pierce the target.
    • PMD: Hydro Pump pierces targets in PMD: Super.
      • PMD has arrows that function similarly.
  • Enemies swarm.
    • DQMD: Sweaty Yetis
    • Shiren: Floaty family.
    • PMD: Ledyba slept in a swarm
  • Enemies flee, drop items when defeated.
    • Shiren: Egg Thing Family.
    • PMD: Abra in PMD: Super.
  • Enemies level up when they defeat the player or another monster.
    • Shiren: Standard Shiren mechanic.
    • PMD: First introduced in the Adventure Squad titles.
      • Enemies in Gates can level up via. Joy Seeds.
  • Enemies respawn after death, level up other monsters.
    • Shiren: When you kill an Evil Soldier, several turns later a member of the Dead Soldier Family will spawn.
    • PMD: This role is filled by Shedinja. It spawns when Nincade is defeated. Other monsters will attempt to defeat it to level up.
      • Monsters attempting to defeat it to level up is similar to the Chow Family in Shiren.
  • Enemies go around the player and appear on the other side.
    • Shiren: Floor Dragon Family
    • PMD: Splash
  • Monsters that act as healers.
    • Shiren: Fluffy Bunny family.
    • PMD: Delibird in PMD: Super.
  • Enemies hypnotize the plyer.
    • Shiren: Gaze family.
    • PMD: Hypnosis in PMD: Super.
  • Enemies degrade equipment.
    • Shiren: Green Slime Family
    • PMD: Gastro Acid destroys the emera's on your looplets.
  • Fire-based enemies incinerate items when thrown.
    • Shiren: Inferno family.
    • PMD: Flame body ability.
  • Explosions that cause splash damage.
    • Shiren: Popster Tank Family shoots explosive rounds that cause splash damage.
    • PMD: Hyper Beam in PMD: Super now causes splash damage. The cooldown is reminiscent of the movement of the Shiren tank family.
  • Enemies hold you in place.
    • Shiren: Parthenos Family holds Shiren in place.
    • PMD: Arena Trap in PMD Super prevents the foe from fleeing.
  • Enemies decrease fullness points.
    • Shiren: Polygon Spin Family sap Shiren of his fullness. As does the Blue Lanternfish Template:FT monster family.
    • PMD: Sweet Kiss in PMD: Super may occasionally decrease fullness.
  • Enemies fire random spells at the player.
    • Shiren: Skull Mage Family fires random magical attacks at the player. (From a select pool of staff abilities.)
    • PMD: Braxien in PMD: Super now has this ability.
  • Enemies dig through dungeon walls.
    • Shiren: Soldier Ant Family digs through walls in Shiren.
    • PMD: In PMD, players could tunnel through walls with a high enough IQ in Rescue Team, with a high enough IQ in the right IQ group (Explorers) or via the TM Rock Smash. In PMD: Super, Sawk's can smash through walls. As well as other Pokémon that knows Rock Smash.
  • Enemies steal items and warp away.
    • Shiren: Pickpocket Family steals currency and warp away. Thiefwalrus Family steals items and warp away. The Crow Minion Family steals items, warps away, and leaves them under a pile of feathers that require a staff bolt to uncover.
    • PMD: Thief / Covet allow a foe to warp away after a successful theft in PMD: Super.
  • Enemies can gunk up (curse) items.
    • Shiren: Curse Girl Family.
    • PMD: PMD: Super has the sticky web (move?) which can make items sticky.
  • Remove enemies from the dungeon.
    • Shiren: Shiren has a scroll which will remove monsters from the rest of the dungeon.
    • PMD: The Ban Seed in PMD: Super removes a move from the rest of the adventure.

Items

  • Staves and Wands.
    • DQMD: Torneko's Great Adventure has Wands, multi-use inoms which fire a ranged blast with varying effects.
    • Shiren: Shiren has Staves, which were functionally identical to wands in DQMD.
    • PMD: PMD: Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon introduced Wands, an item which acts similar to staves in DQMD and Shiren. Unlike these items, PMD wands are stackable items that can be stacked up to 40 wands in one inventory, as opposed to each wand/staff being a separate item with a charge count like in DQMD and Shiren
  • Equipment Seals and Melding.
    • Shiren: In Mystery Dungeon 2: Shiren the Wanderer and all subsequent Shiren titles, most swords and shields have unique seals with varying effects. Swords and Shields can be melded/synthesized together in ocder to combine the upgrade values and equipment seals into one item. In Shiren GB2 and Shiren 3, bracelets can also be melded together in order to create single bracelets with multiple effects.(research: are there other Shiren games with Bracelet melding?)
    • FFMD: In Chocobo no Fushigi no Dungeon(English: Chocobo's Mysterious Dungeon), talons and saddles had a similar seal system to that of Shiren the Wanderer. Additionally, brewery rooms containing pots could appear in Dungeons. By inserting two talons or two saddles into a pot and using a fire or thunder spellbook to light the pot, the two items could be combined together. In Chocobo's Dungeon 2, these rooms make a reappearance. In Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo's Dungeon, and its various remasters, th blacksmith Freya can combine talons or saddles together.

Other

  • Power up the player.
    • Shiren: Shiren's super abilities. (Shiren 5)
    • PMD: Awakening emera effects.

See also

References

  • [1] Enemy Roles from Shiren to PMD and PSMD. (December 6, 2015)
    • Thanks to user /user/Aw_ on Reddit for the post idea and initial batch of research.
    • [2] Thanks to user /user/Amphouse for the additional notes in the comments of the original post
  • [3] Shiren references within PSMD. (December 10, 2015)
    • [4] Thanks for a similar posy by the /user/Theguesst on Reddit.