Draft:Shiren 5 2020:Heavenly Lake

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Key Parameters
Initial Goal Floor 28F
Final Goal Floor 99F
Day / Night Both
Bring Items In No
Take Items Out Yes
# of Allies 0
# of Rescues 3
Pre-ID'd Items Pots, Staves, and Talismans (confirm)
New Items Yes
Shops Normal (all 3 types)
Monster Houses Normal, including pop-ups
Characters Shopkeepers + wandering non-allies (confirm)
Spawn Rate Normal (1 per 30 turns)
Winds of Kron Normal (slow) -- 1@1700, 4@2000

Heavenly Lake is a bonus dungeon in Shiren 5 in which items dropped on the ground disappear. You cannot take items, Gitan, or allies into the dungeon, but you can request rescue up to 3 times and you get to keep the items you have on hand if you win. This dungeon experiences both day and night. The initial goal floor is 28F, but after first victory, the goal floor becomes 99 F and stays there permanently.

Gaining Access

You must beat the Tower of Fortune before you can access this dungeon. Once you've beat the Tower of Fortune, you can access this dungeon by talking to an old man by a boat in the SE section of Nekomaneki Village. When you accept to play, you get a little video of Shiren and Koppa riding the boat up the river on the E side of Nekomaneki Village.

Unique Features

  • If an item is dropped, thrown, or swapped onto the ground, it disappears.
    • This includes missed projectiles, monster drops, and items emerging from a broken pot.
    • An important exception is shops. Items dropped inside shops will not disappear.
    • Items are pre-placed on the floor as normal.
  • There seems to also be an exception for items dropped when a monster kills another monster, at least at night.
    • Example: At night, a bunch of night monsters killed one another, then day broke. Then I found an item in a hallway, which means it couldn't possibly have been pre-placed there, nor could anything I have done put it there. I assume the only way that item could have gotten there is that night monsters fought one another and the loser dropped an item.
    • It's unknown if monsters that kill other monsters during the day can also drop items safely.
  • New items can appear in this dungeon.

Final Reward

Every time you beat the dungeon, you get a Heavenly Pot. This is the only way to obtain this item in single-player mode. The Heavenly Pot is effectively a reusable Heal Pot. You can refill it at the hot springs in Template:Shiren5.

Farming Opportunities

There are no known farming opportunities in this dungeon, aside from the final reward item.

Strategies

Retrain yourself not to use the ground, including not to use Mixer monsters in the normal way. Stores are even more important than usual. because they are the only places you can safely break Synthesis Pots. If by chance you are on a floor that has both a shop and Mixer monsters, you can lure them into the shop and kill them there to get mixed/crafted items out. (TODO: list Mixer floors here) If a monster always drop items, you can lure them into shops so you will not lose their drops.

Prepare a strong set of night abilities at Hotel Nekomaneki. This external webpage has some suggestions for the ideal set of night abilities. See also the Template:Shiren5 page for ideas.

You can find new items in this dungeon, so crafting some great ones (especially swords, shields, and bracelets) can radically improve your chances of beating the dungeon. See Template:Shiren5 for details.

Expert Badges

  1. You conquered a dungeon without equipping any weapons!
  2. You conquered a dungeon without using any grass!
  3. You conquered a dungeon without using any scrolls!
  4. You conquered a dungeon without using any staves!
  5. You conquered a dungeon without using any talismans!
  6. You conquered a dungeon without using any pots!
  7. You conquered a dungeon without collapsing even once!
  8. You conquered a dungeon without doing any direct attacks!

Monsters

The types of monsters that can appear in this dungeon have not yet been replicated to this wiki. Here are good external resources:

Open Questions

  • Confirm that night monsters killing night monsters can cause items to drop safely on the ground.
  • Try to get a day monster to kill another day monster and see if that can cause an item to drop on the ground, too.
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