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'''Perilous Rocks''' is a [[Shiren 5 Plus/Locations|bonus dungeon]] in Shiren 5 with a higher rate of monster houses, including "pop-up" monster houses. You can't take items, Gitan, or allies into the dungeon, nor can you request rescue, but you keep the items if you win. The dungeon is daytime only and the initial goal floor is 50 F. After the first victory, the goal floor becomes 99 F and stays there permanently.
'''Perilous Rocks''' is a [[Draft:Shiren 5 2020:Location|bonus dungeon]] in Shiren 5 with a higher rate of monster houses, including "pop-up" monster houses. You can't take items, Gitan, or allies into the dungeon, nor can you request rescue, but you keep the items if you win. The dungeon is daytime only and the initial goal floor is 50 F. After the first victory, the goal floor becomes 99 F and stays there permanently.


== Gaining Access ==
==Gaining Access==
This dungeon can be accessed from the Dungeon Center in [[Shiren 5/Nekomaneki Village|Nekomaneki Village]]. Access is not restricted; you can play as soon as you can reach the Dungeon Center.
This dungeon can be accessed from the Dungeon Center in [[Draft:Shiren 5 2020:Nekomaneki Village|Nekomaneki Village]]. Access is not restricted; you can play as soon as you can reach the Dungeon Center.


== Unique Features ==
==Unique Features==
* Monster houses are more common than normal, and especially "pop-up" or "surprise" monster houses.
* Monster houses are more common than normal, and especially "pop-up" or "surprise" monster houses.
* Shops are more common than normal.
* Shops are more common than normal.
* Item distribution differs but it's hard to be specific:
* A wide range of items appear in this dungeon.
** You can apparently find the full variety of items in this dungeon, though not uniformly spread across all the floors.
** Earlier floors tend to have less expensive and less harmful items.
** Earlier floors tend to have less expensive and less harmful items.
* The dungeon is daytime only.
* The dungeon is daytime only.


== Final Reward ==
==Final Reward==
Every time you beat this dungeon, you get a Worthy Shield, the level 8 form of the [[Shiren 5/Items/Shields/Shoddy Plank Type|Shoddy Plank]], which isn't particularly useful.
Every time you beat this dungeon (either version), you get a Worthy Shield, the level 8 form of the [[Draft:Shiren 5 2020:Shoddy Plank Type|Shoddy Plank]], which isn't particularly useful.


== Farming Opportunities ==
==Farming Opportunities==
Perilous Rocks is a difficult dungeon and escape items seem to be scarce. However, items are very abundant in this dungeon, so you will find more rare items than usual. Swords and shields can be tagged, while some items (such as Angel Seed and Upgrade Pot) can be turned into a rune on a tagged piece of equipment via a Mixer.
Perilous Rocks is a difficult dungeon and escape items are scarce. However, items are very abundant in this dungeon, so you will find more rare items than usual. Swords and shields can be tagged, while some items (such as Angel Seed and Upgrade Pot) can be turned into a rune on a tagged piece of equipment via a Mixer.


If you synthesize with everything you find along the way, you will end up with a massive build. This can be a good way to obtain equipment with many upgrade points and runes.
If you synthesize with everything you find along the way, you will end up with a massive build. This can be a good way to obtain equipment with many upgrade points and runes.


== Strategy ==
==Strategy==
Like with other dungeons where you cannot take items in, many tips related to beating this dungeon can be found in [[Shiren 5/Dungeon Tips|Dungeon Tips]].  
Like with other dungeons where you cannot take items in, many tips related to beating this dungeon can be found in [[Community:Shiren 5 2020 Dungeon Tips|Dungeon Tips]].
 
This dungeon is very generous with items, due to the higher rate of monster houses and shops.


This dungeon is very generous with items, due to the higher rate of monster houses and shops.  
[[Draft:Shiren 5 2020:Mixer Family|Mixers]] appear on many floors (7-11, 27-30, 48-52), and as usual try to merge all your items together before you leave these floors. In this dungeon, Mixers often appear together with [[Draft:Shiren 5 2020:Mudkin Family|Mudkins]], which can damage your equipment. Be careful while moving on these floors, and consider equipping a shield only so you can remove it if a Mudkin ends up next to you. Floors 7, 29 and 30 are opportunities to use Mixers without having to worry about Mudkins / Muddys. Be careful when trying to mix on 27F and 48-5floor 1: a Mixermon/gon might in fact be a Crow/[[Draft:Shiren 5 2020:Crow Tengu Family|Eagle Tengu]], in which case you will lose any item you throw at it. On these floors, test out a Mixermon/gon by throwing an item that doesn't mix (such as a Wood Arrow) and seeing if it gets swallowed, and use the remaining slots (2 for Mixermon, 3 for Mixergon) for mixing.


[[Shiren 5/Monsters/Mixer Family|Mixers]] appear on many floors, and (as usual) try to merge all your items together before you leave these floors. In this dungeon, mixers often appear together with [[Shiren 5/Mudkin Family|Mudkins]], which can damage your equipment. Be careful while moving on these floors, and consider equipping a shield only so you can remove it if a Mudkin ends up next to you. Floors 7, 29 and 30 are opportunities to use Mixers without having to worry about Mudkins / Muddys. Be careful when trying to mix on 48-51F: a Mixergon might in fact be a Eagle Tengu, in which case your first item will be lost. On these floors, test out a Mixergon by throwing an item that doesn't mix (such as a Wood Arrow) and seeing if it swallows the arrow, and use the remaining 3 slots for mixing
Shops appear often in this dungeon, and it is important to maximize them. [[Draft:Shiren 5 2020:Identifying Items#Indirect Identification|Price check]] and name every item, and do a [[Draft:Shiren 5 2020:Identifying Items#Direct Identification|mass identification]] if you can. Look out for opportunities and reasons to [[Community:Shiren 5 2020 Dungeon Tips#Stealing from shops|steal from a shop]].


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Monster houses are very common. See how to [[Community:Shiren 5 2020 Dungeon Tips#Dealing with monster house|deal with them]] and what to do if you end up [[Community:Shiren 5 2020 Dungeon Tips#Dealing with being surrounded|surrounded]]. In general, being in middle of the room is dangerous, and you should see if you can escape into a hallway, ideally before the monsters can take a move. Monster houses are generated with many traps, and it is often worth checking for traps before you walk on every tile, especially if the room is small. A Monster Trap can be particularly devastating, since it destroys all items in the room and turns them into monsters.
Maximizing monster houses: Never fight in the middle of the room, but retreat into a hallway. Use Pinning Staff to escape, use Cloning Staff to distract, use a Confusion Scroll if you need the entire room disabled for a few turns. If at all possible, avoid walking on any tile that you don't 100% know is untrapped. Note that the hallway entrances to all rooms including monster houses are never trapped to begin with. Swing your sword over every tile to check for traps, which is especially useful in small monster houses. It is debateable if you should use Steady Shield or Unmoving rune, since it is very helpful to be able to use a Warp Grass or Pinning Staff when in trouble without having to remove your shield first. Make sure not to step on the trap that turns all items into monsters, at least not until you've despoiled everything you want from the room. And lastly, learn to skip monster houses when you have virtually everything you want already, as beyond a certain point of wealth, the upside of risking a monster house becomes less and less worth it, esp. as you get deeper and the danger increases. Sometimes the best thing to do is to pin your way to the exit as fast as possible.


Maximizing shops: (TODO: rewrite and shorten this paragraph / outsource everything via links. topics covered: mass ID, price check, stealing from shops, detail about what happens when you steal, selling a valuable thing and stealing it back with Zalokleft, and Boring Staff (all three should be summarized and moved to Dungeon Tips))
"Pop-ups", or surprise monster houses, also appear often. A room marked as a surprise monster house has a chance of popping up every time you take a step in the room, and there is no way to know it in advance. These pop-up monster houses put you at risk of being surrounded, so it is always a good idea to have some items handy, such as Warp Grass, Pinning Staff and Confusion Scroll. When monsters appear around you, always take a look around the room and see if there are any particularly dangerous monsters, such as [[Draft:Shiren 5 2020:Fearabbit Family|Fearabbits]], high level [[Draft:Shiren 5 2020:Mutaikon Family|Mutaikons]], or a Mage that can hit you. Note that a pop-up monster house generates new traps, so the tiles you walked on are not entirely safe.


One of the best things you can do with a shop is sell the shopkeeper everything unidentified then give him an Identify Scroll. You can of course drop a single sword or shield on the floor and ask the shopkeeper it's sell price to determine if it's cursed or if it has a bonus upgrade value, then decide to sell it or equip it and thus fully identify it. And of course, theft is a critical part of the game. Keep in mind that, when the shopkeeper executes "the plan", all existing monsters turn into shopkeepers, some of which move at double speed, and, one room at random (other than the shop itself) becomes populated in bulk with monster-house levels of shopkeepers. If this room happens to be the exit room, your escape just became much more difficult. One of the safest ways to try to steal is to use a Boring Staff to dig a passageway in the right location(s) then pin or swap as close to the exit as possible, minimizing the number of turns you need to take in thief mode. If you manage to pull off a few successful thefts earlier in your run, it really helps you keep ahead of the power curve and ultimately win your run.
It is debatable whether you should synthesize with Steady Shield. The rune prevents Fearabbits from pulling you in, but it also prevents you from using Warp Grass and Pinning Staff, unless you remove your shield, which is often not a good idea.


This dungeon has a high frequency of "pop-up" or surprise monster houses. A room marked as a surprise monster house has a chance of popping up every time you take a step in the room, and there is no way to know it in advance. (For some theories on how these are triggered, see the comment.) <!-- d --> However, you can still prepare for them. Warp Grass and Hide Pots are both good prep items. Keep both a Pinning Staff and Swap Staff to help you escape the room as quickly as possible if a monster house pops up while you're in the middle. Walk in a straight line every time you enter a room lets you pin out most easily. It's also useful to keep at least one Confusion Scroll on hand if possible. Confusion lasts much longer than Slumber, and the monsters don't "wake" from Confusion hasted. Fear Scrolls and Fixer Scrolls aren't bad but only work on your immediate neighbors rather than the entire room. And of course, Swift Grass and Invincible Grass are definitely useful emergency items. It's always a good idea to keep at least one Heal Pot on hand if you can. Of course, when a monster house first pops up, immediately stop and check what monsters you're dealing with (and don't forget that tiles you walked over already may now have traps on them). If there are particularly dangerous monsters (e.g. monsters that can put you to sleep by hitting you, monsters that can inflict bad status ailments by throwing things at you, monsters that can yank you to their location and surround you with other monsters), this might be an excellent time to pin completely out the room and a fair ways down a hallway if you still have an open line of site to do so, or to use a Hide Pot or Warp Grass if you don't have a direct line of site for escape via Pinning Staff.
FO-UZZ's appear on 69-73F, and they can be farmed for Revival Grasses. They are easy to find in a grand hall monster house. They will teleport if you come within ~8 spaces, so seal them from a distance.


== Expert Badges ==
On late floors, sometimes it is best to skip monster houses and [[Community:Shiren 5 2020 Dungeon Tips#Diving|push for the exit]], especially if you already have everything you want. 
[TODO: confirm that there are no expert badges.]
==Expert Badges==
Expert Badges are not available for this dungeon.


== Monsters ==
==Monsters==
The types of monsters that can appear in this dungeon have not yet been replicated to this wiki. Here are good external resources:
The types of monsters that can appear in this dungeon have not yet been replicated to this wiki. Here are good external resources:
* https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1C1h9IRPQPLg9g7aE48wlyw8IudHIStawK4mR3kuggto/edit?usp=sharing
* https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1C1h9IRPQPLg9g7aE48wlyw8IudHIStawK4mR3kuggto/edit?usp=sharing
* http://seesaawiki.jp/w/shiren5/d/%c7%c8%cd%f0%a4%ce%b4%e4%be%ec (Japanese wiki page for this location)
* http://seesaawiki.jp/w/shiren5/d/%c7%c8%cd%f0%a4%ce%b4%e4%be%ec (Japanese wiki page for this location


== Open Questions ==
* Check if there are monster badges.
* Flesh out the tips and strategy section.


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Key Parameters
Initial Goal Floor 50F
Final Goal Floor 99F
Day / Night Day
Bring Items In No
Take Items Out Yes
# of Allies 0
# of Rescues 0
Pre-ID'd Items No
New Items No
Shops All 3 types
Monster Houses Common, including pop-ups
Characters Shopkeepers only
Spawn Rate Every 30 turns (normal)
Winds of Kron Normal (slow)

Perilous Rocks is a bonus dungeon in Shiren 5 with a higher rate of monster houses, including "pop-up" monster houses. You can't take items, Gitan, or allies into the dungeon, nor can you request rescue, but you keep the items if you win. The dungeon is daytime only and the initial goal floor is 50 F. After the first victory, the goal floor becomes 99 F and stays there permanently.

Gaining Access

This dungeon can be accessed from the Dungeon Center in Nekomaneki Village. Access is not restricted; you can play as soon as you can reach the Dungeon Center.

Unique Features

  • Monster houses are more common than normal, and especially "pop-up" or "surprise" monster houses.
  • Shops are more common than normal.
  • A wide range of items appear in this dungeon.
    • Earlier floors tend to have less expensive and less harmful items.
  • The dungeon is daytime only.

Final Reward

Every time you beat this dungeon (either version), you get a Worthy Shield, the level 8 form of the Shoddy Plank, which isn't particularly useful.

Farming Opportunities

Perilous Rocks is a difficult dungeon and escape items are scarce. However, items are very abundant in this dungeon, so you will find more rare items than usual. Swords and shields can be tagged, while some items (such as Angel Seed and Upgrade Pot) can be turned into a rune on a tagged piece of equipment via a Mixer.

If you synthesize with everything you find along the way, you will end up with a massive build. This can be a good way to obtain equipment with many upgrade points and runes.

Strategy

Like with other dungeons where you cannot take items in, many tips related to beating this dungeon can be found in Dungeon Tips.

This dungeon is very generous with items, due to the higher rate of monster houses and shops.

Mixers appear on many floors (7-11, 27-30, 48-52), and as usual try to merge all your items together before you leave these floors. In this dungeon, Mixers often appear together with Mudkins, which can damage your equipment. Be careful while moving on these floors, and consider equipping a shield only so you can remove it if a Mudkin ends up next to you. Floors 7, 29 and 30 are opportunities to use Mixers without having to worry about Mudkins / Muddys. Be careful when trying to mix on 27F and 48-5floor 1: a Mixermon/gon might in fact be a Crow/Eagle Tengu, in which case you will lose any item you throw at it. On these floors, test out a Mixermon/gon by throwing an item that doesn't mix (such as a Wood Arrow) and seeing if it gets swallowed, and use the remaining slots (2 for Mixermon, 3 for Mixergon) for mixing.

Shops appear often in this dungeon, and it is important to maximize them. Price check and name every item, and do a mass identification if you can. Look out for opportunities and reasons to steal from a shop.

Monster houses are very common. See how to deal with them and what to do if you end up surrounded. In general, being in middle of the room is dangerous, and you should see if you can escape into a hallway, ideally before the monsters can take a move. Monster houses are generated with many traps, and it is often worth checking for traps before you walk on every tile, especially if the room is small. A Monster Trap can be particularly devastating, since it destroys all items in the room and turns them into monsters.

"Pop-ups", or surprise monster houses, also appear often. A room marked as a surprise monster house has a chance of popping up every time you take a step in the room, and there is no way to know it in advance. These pop-up monster houses put you at risk of being surrounded, so it is always a good idea to have some items handy, such as Warp Grass, Pinning Staff and Confusion Scroll. When monsters appear around you, always take a look around the room and see if there are any particularly dangerous monsters, such as Fearabbits, high level Mutaikons, or a Mage that can hit you. Note that a pop-up monster house generates new traps, so the tiles you walked on are not entirely safe.

It is debatable whether you should synthesize with Steady Shield. The rune prevents Fearabbits from pulling you in, but it also prevents you from using Warp Grass and Pinning Staff, unless you remove your shield, which is often not a good idea.

FO-UZZ's appear on 69-73F, and they can be farmed for Revival Grasses. They are easy to find in a grand hall monster house. They will teleport if you come within ~8 spaces, so seal them from a distance.

On late floors, sometimes it is best to skip monster houses and push for the exit, especially if you already have everything you want.

Expert Badges

Expert Badges are not available for this dungeon.

Monsters

The types of monsters that can appear in this dungeon have not yet been replicated to this wiki. Here are good external resources: