User:Jubilee/Save Surala Notes
Managed to find an address which sets which floor you're on: 7E8427
It decides what level you start at:
if initial floor=1-6, start lv1
if initial floor=7-13, start lv12(1200 EXP)
if initial floor=14-20, start lv20(6000 EXP)
if initial floor=21+, start lv27(25000 EXP)
It decides what monsters appear (there's visible monster progression from floors 1-29)
And setting it to floor 2 even brings up a partner event that I think was week 1 only
Interestingly, it doesn't have any effect on progress in the week's episode - you always go through 8 floors, even if they're all 'floor 1'
I also couldn't find a way of triggering the previous towns from the other weeks, though the 'reset and go back to town X!' messages are still there
And yep, the partner was on floor 2 on week 1
But it seems possible that a lot of the scripts are still there
finish without Surara:
ガイバラ「#619#く来た! 旅の者よ!
ワシがガイバラじゃ!#
ここまで来るとはお主もやるな!
#1867#だ時間が残ってるみたいじゃから、
「中断」を選んで地下水脈の村に
戻るのじゃ! じゃ またあおう!」
finish with Surara:
ガイバラ「#619#く来た! 旅の者よ!
ワシがガイバラじゃ!
ここまで来るとはお主もやるな!
#1847#んと、スララを連れてきたのか!
よし、ここからはワシが面倒を見てやろう。
#1867#だ時間が残ってるみたいじゃから、
「中断」を選んで地下水脈の村に
戻るのじゃ! じゃ またあおう!」
(couple characters still need correcting - but there's only two added lines in the old man's dialogue)
Good job getting here, traveler! My name is Gaibara! (Wow, you brought Surara all this way! I'll look after her here now.) I see you still have time left, so select 'Suspend' and go back to the Underground Waterway Village! See you later!
Looks like the fantranslation overwrote text again and again, so there's lots of unused text xD
Pekeji "...................#254#Don't just stand there, say something.#254#Waooooooh!"#254# oooooh!"#254# ooooh!"#254# t just stand there, say something.#254#Waooooooh!"#254# #254#Waooooooh!"#254# #254#Waooooooh!"#254# oh!"#254# ay something.#254#Waooooooh!"#254# ere, say something.#254#Waooooooh!"#254# ooooooh!"#254# ekeji "...................#254#Don't just stand there, say something.#254#Waooooooh!"#254#
There's even one line which was changed, leaving an unused beta line partly overwritten
Beta: punch...#254#...I feel totally sober now.#248#B, Bro, forgive me...#254#I wasted the money you took the trouble to give me...#254#But...#252##0##4#That punch, you were just showing your concern for me,#254#weren't you? Like, you know, punching your little brother to help him grow up.#247#As if you were saying 'I'll take care of you from now on.'"#254# Final: Pekeji: "Whoa, that was a hell#254#of a punch...#248#...I'm totally sober now.#247#B-Bro, forgive me...#254#I wasted the money you took the#254#trouble to give me...#247#But... That punch, you were just#254#showing your concern for me,#254#weren't you?#247#Like, you know, punching your little#254#brother to help him grow up.#247#As if you were saying 'I'll take#254#care of you from now on.'"#254#(edited)
Rara and Surara...
DS localisation: Lara and Surala
fan translation: Lala and Surara
bluesun05/30/2017
M--May I stop wetting my bed...." Smith's Daughter: "May all the people important to me laugh well, cry well, ....and maybe even love well, and always live to the fullest..." I hope my... bedwetting goes away... Ｓmith’s Apprentice：May all my friends live life to the fullest, with laughter, and tears, and perhaps a little love as well...
alright, got both translations extracted in semi-usable form
Took a look at the versions of Shiren, seems like the script is nearly identical between the retail/BS, just a couple lines added/missing here and there I'd need to synch up
Also: the script is the same between BS week 2 and BS week 4, it looks like text for all the weeks are in there
specific script differences: BS is missing what looks like an opening cutscene, and has these extra lines: 'All of your items were identified' 'Your belly stopped emptying' 'Your belly started emptying again' 'The floor suddenly got brighter' 'An item appeared', 'BS Cave', 'You safely reached the top of the dungeon with Surara', 'Shopkeeper: "I'm having a sale right now! The price for the items you bought is only ###, is that okay?"'
I guess most of those are used for soundlinked events
Still need to finish transcribing the font from both versions, but if space can be found in the BS ROM, might be easier than expected to insert the translation
bluesun05/29/2017
...or perhaps not. Looks like the fantranslation completely rewrote the font handling, even the pointer list the Japanese text uses was ignored
Turns out there's a debug mode with floor skip / give item / sound and animation test powers and more
Fantranslation didn't find it and either dummied out or mistranslated all of its text :(
To unlock the debug mode, change 0x8000-0x8001 in the ROM from FF FF to 00 00(edited)
After that, you can press Start to skip a floor, or various key combos + Start are debug features
bluesun06/01/2017
Got the main dialogue fonts transcribed from both BS and retail shiren. Phew.
bsfont = u' 0123456789+-?!/()[]あいうえおかがきぎくぐけげこごさざしじすずせぜそぞただちぢつづてでとどなにぬねのは
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サザシジスズセゼソゾタダチヂツヅテデトドナニヌネノハバパヒビピフブプヘベペホボポマミムメモヤユヨラリルレロワヲン
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retailfont = u' 0123456789+-?!/()[]あいうえおかがきぎくぐけげこごさざしじすずせぜそぞただちぢつづてでとどなにぬねのは
ばぱひびぴふぶぷへべぺほぼぽまみむめもやゆよらりるれろわをんっゃゅょぁぃぅぇぉーアイウヴエオカガキギクグケゲコゴ
サザシジスズセゼソゾタダチヂツヅテデトドナニヌネノハバパヒビピフブプヘベペホボポマミムメモヤユヨラリルレロワヲン
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"I'm just glad they didn't recompile the font for every BS week...
Now I can finally compare the two scripts...
Or I could, if they didn't renumber all the sound effects that the scripts use...
For miscellaneous knowledge, it seems 7 characters are unique to the BS version script: 促prompt 戚family relative 着arrive 週week 閉close Ｎ Ｓ
The inn in the town is 'close'd, you 'arrive' at each 'week''s B'S' cave goal, there's beta text about an Instruction 'N'PC to 'prompt' you to go back for a better score, and for some reason the Security Guards at the shops got renamed to the Shopkeeper's 'Relative's"
bluesun05/29/2017
The retail version uses a larger font / character set than the BS version
So even the same text won't match between the two versions
retail: 、・。「」入壺物新屋中『』
BS: 。、・新規物巻「」草備中壺
I guess they recompiled the font based on character usage in the BS ver
So I guess that 一時しのぎの杖 Temporary Reprieve Rod sends the target to the stairs
bluesun05/29/2017
I remember the BS Pot was explained in the soundlink audio...
I've forgotten what it was for though, they went through and explained all the pots
seeing all the rabbits, I wonder if one of the Soundlink events was 'randomly appearing rabbits'
Okay, the 6:30 event is 'You are now invincible!'
Event at 10 minutes in - the locations of the traps are revealed!
Event at 12 minutes in - Shop sale, 50% off!
Event 16 minutes in: Belly stopped dropping!
Event 17 minutes in: Power up for this floor!
Event 18 minutes in: Sale is almost over!
Event 24 minutes in: Sprung up to the next floor!
Event 25 minutes in: Belly started emptying again!
Event 30 minutes in: Invincibility!
Event 40 minutes in: All items shown on the map on this floor!
Event 47 minutes in: Many enemies take damage!
Event 51 minutes in: All items were identified!
The pot is a pun in Japanese about back-massaging
The debuff with the chimes is that Shiren can't use his mouth
bluesun05/29/2017
装備するとワナにかからなくなるぞ。 < looks like the description for the Trap Master Bracelet is in at least
(bruteforced out part of a text dump)
With a normal completion score being 1 million, and a Surara completion score being 2 million, that spring is a rude event...
bluesun05/30/2017
Those credits use letters not in the Shiren font too... Maybe it's the BS-X font
All of his scores are around 1 million
Wonder if that means he never managed to Save Surara
Though the text at the bottom says it's a repeat broadcast with no send-in ranking
I think the Floor up TRE was put there with the specific intent of trolling someone who thought they could just save Surura with their stored items.
Like they wanted to force a player to scrapper through 22-29 at least once.
bluesun05/30/2017
The loading screen about 4-5 minutes in did warn the player not to be too greedy in taking all the items at once
But being a live game...
Who would know a trap like that was coming
Kiddo05/30/2017
Exactly!
And since it's technically a competitive scorerun, that totally screws with the skill element, since it bascially is designed to trap people who are "good" at the game.