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'''Damage''' {{JA|???|}} is a major Gameplay Elemnent in in {{GameTitle|Torneko1|l|i}}. {{Torneko1|Torneko}}, {{Torneko1|monster}}s and  {{Torneko1|Trap}}s can deal damage based on their Attack Power, the Defense Power of their target and random numbers generated by the game. Attack Power is a value determined by different formulae using Base Power, Strength, Weapon Strength and Projectile Strength. These formula differ between Torneko and monsters. For some projectiles, damage is fixed and doesn't use any formula. Finally special factors can modify damage after the calculation.  
'''Damage''' {{JA|???|}} is a gameplay mechanic in {{Torneko1Title}}. {{Torneko1|Torneko}}, {{Torneko1|Monster}}s and  {{Torneko1|Trap}}s can deal damage based on their {{Torneko1|Attack Power}}, the {{Torneko1|Defense Power}} of their target and random numbers generated by the game. Some items and Special Attack deal fixed damage instead. Finally special factors can modify damage after the calculations.
==Damage Calculations==


==Torneko's Attack Power==
The damage of Torneko on monsters, the damage of monsters on Torneko and the damage of Traps on Torneko are calculated with the same formulas.
===Base Power===
Base Power is a {{Torneko1|stat}} unique to Torneko. It scales with his {{Torneko1|level}}.
{{Torneko 1 Torneko Base Power}}
===Strength===
{{Torneko1|Strength}} is a stat unique to Torneko. It starts at 8 and is capped between 1 - 8. However this cap can be increased by some {{Torneko1|item}}s so that Strength can effectively range between 1 - 99.
===Weapon Strength===
Weapon Strength is a value specific to each {{Torneko1|weapon}}s. There are 7 different Weapon Strength for the 7 different weapons in the game. However these items can randomly spawn with a modifier of -1, +1, +2 and +3. The {{Torneko1|Bikill Scroll}} can also increase this value up to a maximum of +99 so that Weapon Strength effectively range between 0 - 109.  


Though this is difficult to achieve in regular gameplay, by exploiting the {{Torneko1|Chance Scroll}}'s ability to increase weapons modifiers by 3, it is possible for Weapon Strength to range between 0 - 255.
First, a Base Damage value is calculated by confronting the Attack Power of the attacking party and the Defense Power of the defending party.


===Attack Power Calculations for Melee===
<math> \color{Purple} \text{Base Damage} \color{Black} = \color{DarkRed} \text{AtkPw} \color{Black} \times \left ( \frac{ 15 }{16} \right )^{\color{Blue} \text{DefPw}} </math>
The following formulae are used to calculate Torneko's Attack Power for his melee attack :
* If WpnStr + Str - 8 is less or equal to 127 :
<math> \color{DarkRed} \text{Attack Power} \color{Black} = \color{Orange} \text{BasePw} \color{Black} + \left ( \color{Orange} \text{BasePw} \color{Black} \times \frac{ \color{Blue} \text{WpnStr} \color{Black} + \color{DarkGreen} \text{Str} \color{Black} - 8}{16} \right ) </math>


The part between parenthesis is calculated first and rounded to the nearest 10. If it is lower than -255, then it becomes -255.
Then the Base Damage obtained is transformed into a distribution of possible damage value by using random numbers generated by the game :


* If WpnStr + Str - 8 is strictly more than 127 :
<math> \color{DarkGreen} \text{Random Number} \color{Black} = \frac{ n }{128} </math> rounded to the nearest fraction with n ranging between 112 - 143.
<math> \color{DarkRed} \text{Attack Power} \color{Black} = \color{Orange} \text{BasePw} \color{Black} + 256 + \left ( \color{Orange} \text{BasePw} \color{Black} \times \frac{ \color{Blue} \text{WpnStr} \color{Black} + \color{DarkGreen} \text{Str} \color{Black} - 8 - 256}{16} \right ) </math>


The part between parenthesis is calculated first and rounded to the nearest 10. If it is lower than -255, then it becomes -255.
The final Damage value is calculated with the following formula :


For example, a level 14 Torneko with a {{Torneko1|Golden Sword}} (WpnStr = 2) and 2 Strength will have an Attack Power of :
<math> \color{Black} \text{Damage} \color{Black} = \color{Purple} \text{BaseDmg} \color{Black} \times \color{DarkGreen} \text{RN} </math>


<math> \color{DarkRed} \text{Attack Power} \color{Black} = \color{Orange} 46 \color{Black} + \left ( \color{Orange} 46 \color{Black} \times \frac{ \color{Blue} 2 \color{Black} + \color{DarkGreen} 2 \color{Black} - 8}{16} \right ) </math>
If this value exceeds 255 then it becomes 255.


<math> \color{DarkRed} \text{Attack Power} \color{Black} = \color{Orange} 46 \color{Black} + \left ( \color{Orange} 46 \color{Black} \times \frac{ \color{Blue} 2 \color{Black} + \color{DarkGreen} 2 \color{Black} - 8}{16} \right ) </math>
==Other Damage Sources==
Thrown Shields, {{Torneko1|Herb}}s, {{Torneko1|Seed}}s, {{Torneko1|Ring}}s, {{Torneko1|Staff|Staves}}, {{Torneko1|Scroll}}s, {{Torneko1|Chest}}s and {{Torneko1|Dragon}}'s projectiles deal fixed damage with some random variations. Explosions from {{Torneko1|Bomb Crag}}s and {{Torneko1|Mine Trap}}s also do fixed damage based on Torneko's current HP. Finally some items deal fixed damage with random variations when used.
Since these damage sources don't use the damage formula, they won't be reduced by higher Defense Power.
===Shields Damage===


<math> \left ( \color{Orange} 46 \color{Black} \times \frac{ \color{Blue} 2 \color{Black} + \color{DarkGreen} 2 \color{Black} - 8}{16} \right ) = -11.5 </math> rounded to -12.
Shields damage when thrown is based on its Shield Strength. If the Shield Strength of a shield is between 1 - 127, it deals damage equal to its Shield Strength or its Shield Strength minus 1 randomly. If the Shield Strength is equal to 0, 128 or higher than 128 then it always deals damage equal to its Shield Strength.


<math> \color{DarkRed} \text{Attack Power} \color{Black} = \color{Orange} 46 \color{Black} - 12 </math>
===Chests and Rings Damage===


<math> \color{DarkRed} \text{Attack Power} \color{Black} = 34 </math>
Chests and Rings damage when thrown is equal to 1 - 2.
 
===Herbs, Seeds, Staves and Scrolls Damage===
Meanwhile a level 1 Torneko with a weapon with WpnStr = 37 (for example an {{Torneko1|Abacus}}+27) and 99 Strength will have the following Attack Power :
 
<math> \color{DarkRed} \text{Attack Power} \color{Black} = \color{Orange} 5 \color{Black} + 256 + \left ( \color{Orange} 5 \color{Black} \times \frac{ \color{Blue} 37 \color{Black} + \color{DarkGreen} 99 \color{Black} - 8 - 256 }{16} \right ) </math>
 
<math> \color{DarkRed} \text{Attack Power} \color{Black} = \color{Orange} 5 \color{Black} + 256 + \left ( \color{Orange} 5 \color{Black} \times \frac{ \color{Blue} 37 \color{Black} + \color{DarkGreen} 99 \color{Black} - 8 - 256}{16} \right ) </math>
 
<math> \left ( \color{Orange} 5 \color{Black} \times \frac{ \color{Blue} 37 \color{Black} + \color{DarkGreen} 99 \color{Black} - 8 - 256 }{16} \right ) = -40 </math>
 
<math> \color{DarkRed} \text{Attack Power} \color{Black} = \color{Orange} 5 \color{Black} + 256 - 40 </math>
 
<math> \color{DarkRed} \text{Attack Power} \color{Black} = 221 </math>
===Attack Power calculations for projectiles===
 
Only {{Torneko1|arrow}}s and thrown weapons use Attack Power to determine what damage they do monsters. Other projectiles do fixed damage with a random variation.
 
===Arrow Strength===
 
Arrow Strength is a value specific to each arrows. There are 2 different Arrow Strength for the 3 different arrow types in the game.
 
===Attack Power calculations for projectiles===


The formulae are identical to that of melee attack with the Weapon Strength + Strength part replaced by the Projectile Strength.  
Herbs, Seeds, Staves and Scrolls damage when thrown is equal to 0 - 1. Exceptions due to special damage modifiers exist.


* If ProjStr - 8 is less or equal to 127 :
===Bang Scroll===
<math> \color{DarkRed} \text{Attack Power} \color{Black} = \color{Orange} \text{BasePw} \color{Black} + \left ( \color{Orange} \text{BasePw} \color{Black} \times \frac{ \color{Blue} \text{ProjStr} \color{Black} - 8}{16} \right ) </math>


The part between parenthesis is calculated first and rounded to the nearest 10. If it is lower than -255, then it becomes -255.
The Bang Scroll deals fixed damage that range between 5 - 35 to all monsters in the same room or the surrounding 8 tiles in a corridor.
===Dragon Projectiles===


* If ProjStr + Str - 8 is strictly more than 127 :
Dragon projectiles deal fixed damage that range between 17 - 23.
<math> \color{DarkRed} \text{Attack Power} \color{Black} = \color{DarkOrange} \text{BasePw} \color{Black} + 256 + \left ( \color{DarkOrange} \text{BasePw} \color{Black} \times \frac{ \color{Blue} \text{ProjStr} \color{Black} - 8 - 256}{16} \right ) </math>
===Bomb Crag Explosions===


The part between parenthesis is calculated first and rounded to the nearest 10. If it is lower than -255, then it becomes -255.
{{Torneko1|Bomb Crag}} explosions don't deal damage to monsters, simply defeating them instantly. They do deal damage to Torneko :
==Monster Attack Power==


The Attack Power of a monster is a stat unique to its species. It scales with its level, getting multiplied by 1.5 for each level increase and then rounded up. If it is higher than 256 then it becomes that value minus 256.  
* If Torneko's current HP is strictly higher than 1, then the damage is equal to his HP minus 1.
===Lilypa's Arrows Attack Power===


Lilypa's arrow damage use the same Attack Power formulae for projectiles as Torneko with the Projectile Strength of a {{Torneko1|Wooden Arrow}} and, probably because of an oversight, the Base Power of Torneko.
* If Torneko's current HP is equal to 1, then it will defeat him instead.
===Mine Traps===
==Trap Attack Power==


{{Torneko1|Arrow Trap}}, {{Torneko1|Poison Arrow Trap}} and {{Torneko1|Pitfall Trap}} have an Attack Power of 8.
Stepping on a Mine Traps instantly defeat monsters in the radius and deals damage to Torneko equal to half his current HP. If his HP is 1, it will defeat him instead.
==Torneko Defense Power==
===Bang Scroll===


Torneko's Defense Power is equal to the Shield Strength of the shield he's equiped with.
The {{Torneko1|Bang Scroll}} deals fixed damage that range between 5 - 35 to all monsters in the same room or the surrounding 8 tiles in a corridor.
===Shield Strength===
===Thunder Staff===
Shield Strength is a value specific to each {{Torneko1|shield}}s. There are 7 different Shield Strength for the 7 different Shields in the game. However these items can randomly spawn with a modifier of -1, +1, +2 and +3. The {{Torneko1|Upper Scroll}} can also increase this value up to a maximum of +99 so that Shield Strength effectively range between 0 - 109.
The {{Torneko1|Thunder Staff}} deals fixed damage that range between 18 - 22 when waved at a monster.
 
Though this is difficult to achieve in regular gameplay, by exploiting the {{Torneko1|Chance Scroll}}'s ability to increase shields modifiers by 3, it is possible for Shield Strength to range between 0 - 255.
 
==Monster Defense Power==
 
The Defense Power of a Monster is a stat unique to its species.
==Damage==
===Damage calculation with Attack Power===
The damage of Torneko on monsters, the damage of monsters on Torneko and the damage of Traps on Torneko are calculated with the same formulae.
 
First, a Base Damage value is calculated by confronting the Attack Power of the attacking party and the Defense Power of the defending party.
 
<math> \color{Grey} \text{Base Damage} \color{Black} = \color{DarkRed} \text{AtkPw} \color{Black} \times \left ( \frac{ 15 }{16} \right )^{\color{Blue} \text{DefPw}} </math>
 
Then the single Base Damage obtained is transformed into a distribution of possible Damage by using random numbers generated by the game :
 
<math> \color{DarkGreen} \text{Random Number} \color{Black} = \frac{ n }{128} </math> rounded to the nearest fraction with n ranging between 112 - 143
 
The final Damage value is calculated with the following formula :
 
<math> \color{Purple} \text{Damage} \color{Black} = \color{Grey} \text{BaseDmg} \color{Black} \times \color{DarkGreen} \text{RN} </math>
 
If this value exceeds 255 then it becomes 255.
 
===Fixed Damage===
Thrown Shields, {{Torneko1|Herb}}s, {{Torneko1|Seed}}s, {{Torneko1|Ring}}s, {{Torneko1|Staff|Staves}}, {{Torneko1|Scroll}}s, {{Torneko1|Chest}}s and {{Torneko1|Green Dragon}}s projectile deal fixed damage with some random variations.
===Shield Damage===
 
Shield damage when thrown is based on its Shield Strength. If the Shield Strength of a shield is between 1 - 127, it deals damage equal to its Shield Strength or its Shield Strength minus 1 randomly. If the Shield Strength is equal to 0, 128 or higher than 128 then it always deals damage equal to its Shield Strength.
 
===Chests and Rings Damage===
 
Chests and Rings damage when thrown is equal to 1 - 2.
===Herbs, Seeds, Staves and Scrolls Damage===
 
Herbs, Seeds, Staves and Scrolls damage when thrown is equal to 0 - 1. Exceptions due to special damage modifiers exist however.
===Green Dragon Projectile===
 
Green Dragon's projectiles deal fixed damage that range between 17 - 23.


==Special Damage Modifiers==
==Special Damage Modifiers==
===Metal Babble Modfifiers===
===Metabble Modifier===
When attacking a {{Torneko1|Metal Babble}} if the calculated damage exceeds 1 then it gets corrected to 1.
When attacking a {{Torneko1|Metabble}}, if the calculated damage exceeds 1, then it gets corrected to 1.
===Dragon Sword Modifier===
===Dragon Sword Modifier===


When attacking a Green Dragon with a {{Torneko1|Dragon Sword}} equipped, damage from any source will first be calculated normally then multiplied by 2. This means the damage from melee attack will be doubled, but also the damage from arrows and thrown weapons.
When attacking a Dragon with a {{Torneko1|Dragon Sword}} equipped, damage from any source will first be calculated normally then multiplied by 2. This means the damage from melee attack will be doubled, but also the damage from arrows and thrown weapons.
 
===Dragon Shield Modifier===
===Dragon Shield Modifier===


When hit by a Green Dragon's projectile with a {{Torneko1|Dragon Shield}}, the damage will be halved, rounded down.  
When hit by a Dragon's projectile with a {{Torneko1|Dragon Shield}}, the damage will be halved, rounded down.
===Monster Weakness Modifiers===
===Monster Weakness Modifiers===


Some monsters are weak to specific herbs that deal a large amount of fixed damage instead of 0 - 1 damage.
Some monsters are weak to specific Herbs. They will take a large amount of fixed damage instead of the regular 0 - 1 damage.


{{Torneko1|Super Herb}}s deal 100 damage to Ghosts, Horks, Mummies and Shadows.
{{Torneko1|Super Herb}}s deal 100 damage to Spookys, Horks, Mummies and Shadows.


{{Torneko1|Antidote Herb}}s deal 50 damage to Toadstools and Mystic Dolls.
{{Torneko1|Antidote Herb}}s deal 50 damage to Bigshrooms and Voodolls.


For some reason these 2 herbs won't deal any damage to other monsters instead of 0 - 1 damage.
For some reason these 2 herbs won't deal any damage to other monsters, instead of the regular 0 - 1 damage.
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* http://000.la.coocan.jp/index.html : Most of the informations on the formulas involved in damage calculation.
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Latest revision as of 20:03, 14 July 2025

Damage (Japanese: ???) is a gameplay mechanic in Super Famicom Torneko's Great Adventure: Mystery Dungeon(UT) - This is an unofficial translation.. Torneko, Monsters and Traps can deal damage based on their Attack Power, the Defense Power of their target and random numbers generated by the game. Some items and Special Attack deal fixed damage instead. Finally special factors can modify damage after the calculations.

Damage Calculations

The damage of Torneko on monsters, the damage of monsters on Torneko and the damage of Traps on Torneko are calculated with the same formulas.

First, a Base Damage value is calculated by confronting the Attack Power of the attacking party and the Defense Power of the defending party.

Then the Base Damage obtained is transformed into a distribution of possible damage value by using random numbers generated by the game :

rounded to the nearest fraction with n ranging between 112 - 143.

The final Damage value is calculated with the following formula :

If this value exceeds 255 then it becomes 255.

Other Damage Sources

Thrown Shields, Herbs, Seeds, Rings, Staves, Scrolls, Chests and Dragon's projectiles deal fixed damage with some random variations. Explosions from Bomb Crags and Mine Traps also do fixed damage based on Torneko's current HP. Finally some items deal fixed damage with random variations when used. Since these damage sources don't use the damage formula, they won't be reduced by higher Defense Power.

Shields Damage

Shields damage when thrown is based on its Shield Strength. If the Shield Strength of a shield is between 1 - 127, it deals damage equal to its Shield Strength or its Shield Strength minus 1 randomly. If the Shield Strength is equal to 0, 128 or higher than 128 then it always deals damage equal to its Shield Strength.

Chests and Rings Damage

Chests and Rings damage when thrown is equal to 1 - 2.

Herbs, Seeds, Staves and Scrolls Damage

Herbs, Seeds, Staves and Scrolls damage when thrown is equal to 0 - 1. Exceptions due to special damage modifiers exist.

Bang Scroll

The Bang Scroll deals fixed damage that range between 5 - 35 to all monsters in the same room or the surrounding 8 tiles in a corridor.

Dragon Projectiles

Dragon projectiles deal fixed damage that range between 17 - 23.

Bomb Crag Explosions

Bomb Crag explosions don't deal damage to monsters, simply defeating them instantly. They do deal damage to Torneko :

  • If Torneko's current HP is strictly higher than 1, then the damage is equal to his HP minus 1.
  • If Torneko's current HP is equal to 1, then it will defeat him instead.

Mine Traps

Stepping on a Mine Traps instantly defeat monsters in the radius and deals damage to Torneko equal to half his current HP. If his HP is 1, it will defeat him instead.

Bang Scroll

The Bang Scroll deals fixed damage that range between 5 - 35 to all monsters in the same room or the surrounding 8 tiles in a corridor.

Thunder Staff

The Thunder Staff deals fixed damage that range between 18 - 22 when waved at a monster.

Special Damage Modifiers

Metabble Modifier

When attacking a Metabble, if the calculated damage exceeds 1, then it gets corrected to 1.

Dragon Sword Modifier

When attacking a Dragon with a Dragon Sword equipped, damage from any source will first be calculated normally then multiplied by 2. This means the damage from melee attack will be doubled, but also the damage from arrows and thrown weapons.

Dragon Shield Modifier

When hit by a Dragon's projectile with a Dragon Shield, the damage will be halved, rounded down.

Monster Weakness Modifiers

Some monsters are weak to specific Herbs. They will take a large amount of fixed damage instead of the regular 0 - 1 damage.

Super Herbs deal 100 damage to Spookys, Horks, Mummies and Shadows.

Antidote Herbs deal 50 damage to Bigshrooms and Voodolls.

For some reason these 2 herbs won't deal any damage to other monsters, instead of the regular 0 - 1 damage.

In Other Languages

Language Name
English Damage
Japanese ???


See Also

v • d • e
Super Famicom Torneko's Great Adventure: Mystery Dungeon(UT) - This is an unofficial translation. - Stats
Attack Power • Belly • Defense Power • Experience • HP • Strength

References

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