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== General Information ==
Weapons (Japanese: ) are the most reliable way of dealing damage in ''Shiren the Wanderer SFC''. [[Shiren 1 SFC/Shiren (character)|Shiren's]] [[Introduction to Basic Gameplay (Shiren)|Strength]] statistic and bare-handed punching quickly become useless upon hoards of [[Shiren 1 SFC/Monsters|Monsters]].
A Weapon is the most reliable way of dealing damage in ''Shiren the Wanderer SFC''. [[Shiren 1 SFC/Shiren (player character)|Shirens]] [[Introduction to Basic Gameplay (Shiren)|Strength]] statistic and bare-handed punching quickly become useless upon hoards of [[Shiren 1 SFC/Monsters|Monsters]].
[[File:Shiren 1 DS Weapons Power Example.png|frame|<span style="color:#00a2e8>'''Upgrade Value'''</span> - Can be upgraded to equal Max Upgrade value.<br> <span style="color:#a1cc1b">'''Base Strength'''</span> - Weapon power independent of upgrades.<br> <span style="color:#ff7d27>'''Max Upgrade'''</span> - Maximum upgrade potential number.</span>]]
[[File:Shiren 1 DS Weapons Power Example.png|frame|<span style="color:#00a2e8>'''Upgrade Value'''</span> - Can be upgraded to equal Max Upgrade value.<br> <span style="color:#a1cc1b">'''Base Strength'''</span> - Weapon power independent of upgrades.<br> <span style="color:#ff7d27>'''Max Upgrade'''</span> - Maximum upgrade potential number.</span>]]
All weapons have an unalterable base power value: '''Base Strength''', and receive additional power through upgrades, in which all weapons have a set '''Max Upgrade''' value which cannot be exceeded. The '''Upgrade Value''' number is shown next to the weapon name as +[Value].
All weapons have an unalterable base power value: '''Base Strength''', and receive additional power through upgrades, in which all weapons have a set '''Max Upgrade''' value which cannot be exceeded. The '''Upgrade Value''' number is shown next to the weapon name as +[Value].


A weapons Upgrade Value can be increased by +1 by reading a [[Shiren 1 SFC/Air Bless Scroll|Air Bless Scroll]] with the weapon equipped, or by paying a [[Shiren 1 SFC/Blacksmith|Blacksmith]] 1,000 [[Gitan]]. Both methods can rarely increase this value by +3 instead of +1
A weapons Upgrade Value can be increased by +1 by reading a [[Shiren 1 SFC/Heaven Scroll|Heaven Scroll]] with the weapon equipped, or by paying a [[Shiren 1 SFC/Blacksmith|Blacksmith]] 1,000 [[Gitan]]. Both methods can rarely increase this value by +3 instead of +1


Combining weapons in a [[Shiren 1 SFC/Melding Jar|Melding Jar]] will add the Upgrade Values of multiple weapons together into the first inserted, as long as the Max Upgrade value has not been exceeded.
Combining weapons in a [[Shiren 1 SFC/Fusion Pot|Fusion Pot]] will add the Upgrade Values of multiple weapons together into the first inserted, as long as the Max Upgrade value has not been exceeded.


==Weapon Seals==
==Weapon Seals==
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[[File:Shiren 1 DS Weapons Dragonkiller Description.png|frame]]
[[File:Shiren 1 DS Weapons Dragonkiller Description.png|frame]]
Some types of weapons have inbuilt  abilities ('''Seals'''), with various effects, including:
Some types of weapons have inbuilt  abilities ('''Seals'''), with various effects, including:
*Increased damage against certain types of monsters.  
* Increased damage against certain [[:Category:Monster Types|types]] of monsters.  
*Performing [[Introduction to Basic Gameplay|Critical Hits]].
* Performing [[Introduction to Basic Gameplay|Critical Hits]].
*The ability to dig through walls.
* The ability to dig through walls.
*Creating [[Shiren 1 SFC/Monster Meat|Meat]] from defeated monsters.
* Creating [[Shiren 1 SFC/Monster Meat|Meat]] from defeated monsters.
[[Shiren 1 SFC/Melding Jars|Melding Jars]] can combine many of these Seals into one item, creating an insanely powerful weapon.
Fusion Pots can combine many of these Seals into one item, creating an insanely powerful weapon.
If a weapon with two ''200% damage to a specific monster type'' seals hits a monster of both types, 400% damage will be dealt (normal damage is quadrupled). [[:Category:Floating-type Monsters|Floating-type]] is the most common in monsters of two types, therefore the Air Slayer Seal [[File:Shiren 1 DS Weapon Seal Air.png]] is one of the most useful.
If a weapon with two ''200% damage to a specific monster type'' seals hits a monster of both types, 400% damage will be dealt (normal damage is quadrupled). [[:Category:Floating-type Monsters|Floating-type]] is the most common in monsters of two types, therefore the Air Slayer Seal [[File:Shiren 1 DS Weapon Seal Air.png]] is one of the most useful.


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==Rusting==
==Rusting==
Triggering [[Shiren 1 SFC/Rusty Traps|Rusty Traps]] and [[Shiren 1 SFC/Green Slime Family Monsters|Green Slime Family Monsters]] can decrease the Upgrade Value of weapons and monsters level 3 and 4 can remove Seals.
Triggering [[Shiren 1 SFC/Rust Switch|Rust Switch]] and [[Shiren 1 SFC/Midoro Family|Midoro Family Monsters]] can decrease the Upgrade Value of weapons and monsters level 3 and 4 can remove Seals.


A weapons minimum upgrade value is the same number as its Base Strength, but negative. Eg. a Fragile Edge has a Base Strength of 20, but will continue to decrease until it stops at a minimum upgrade value of -20.
A weapons minimum upgrade value is the same number as its Base Strength.


===Grey Slimes and Red Slimes===
===Grey Slimes and Red Slimes===
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===Exceptions===
===Exceptions===
*Golden Blades can never rust because they cannot lose their inherent [Gld] Seal, though other weapons with this seal can rust by Grey or Red Slimes.
* Clubs cannot rust by Rust Switches, but can rust by Midoro Family Monsters (all levels).{{Citation needed}}
*Cudgels cannot rust by Rusty Traps, but can rust by Green Slime Family Monsters (all levels).  


Weapons cannot lose their intrinsic ability, e.g. a Dragonkiller cannot have its [Drg] Seal removed, however the [Drg] seal can potentially be lost if this shield is melded into a Polearm or another Weapon other than a Dragonkiller (or Dragonkill X).
Weapons cannot lose their intrinsic ability, e.g. a Dragon Killer cannot have its [Drg] Seal removed, however the [Drg] seal can potentially be lost if this weapon is melded into a Nagamaki or another Weapon other than a Dragon Killer.


== Buying and Selling ==
== Buying and Selling ==
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==External References==
==External References==
<ref name=":0">https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/925583-mystery-dungeon-shiren-the-wanderer/42404597</ref>Rescue Reward item locations data obtained from Lord Gek on GameFAQ's Via Gabikun/ Official strat guide.
<ref>http://twist.jpn.org/sfcsiren/index.php?%E3%82%A2%E3%82%A4%E3%83%86%E3%83%A0#j816b0c5</ref> Item price info.
 
<ref>http://sexypioneer.spaces.live.com/blog/cns%2138E9845561DB2407%214089.entry?_c=BlogPart</ref>Revised data via SexyPioneer's blog
 
<ref>http://twist.jpn.org/sfcsiren/index.php?%E3%82%A2%E3%82%A4%E3%83%86%E3%83%A0#j816b0c5</ref>Super Famicom item price info.


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Template:Shiren 1 Rosetta Stone Weapons (Japanese: ) are the most reliable way of dealing damage in Shiren the Wanderer SFC. Shiren's Strength statistic and bare-handed punching quickly become useless upon hoards of Monsters.

Upgrade Value - Can be upgraded to equal Max Upgrade value.
Base Strength - Weapon power independent of upgrades.
Max Upgrade - Maximum upgrade potential number.

All weapons have an unalterable base power value: Base Strength, and receive additional power through upgrades, in which all weapons have a set Max Upgrade value which cannot be exceeded. The Upgrade Value number is shown next to the weapon name as +[Value].

A weapons Upgrade Value can be increased by +1 by reading a Heaven Scroll with the weapon equipped, or by paying a Blacksmith 1,000 Gitan. Both methods can rarely increase this value by +3 instead of +1

Combining weapons in a Fusion Pot will add the Upgrade Values of multiple weapons together into the first inserted, as long as the Max Upgrade value has not been exceeded.

Weapon Seals

See: Melding and Seals

Shiren 1 DS Weapons Dragonkiller Description.png

Some types of weapons have inbuilt abilities (Seals), with various effects, including:

  • Increased damage against certain types of monsters.
  • Performing Critical Hits.
  • The ability to dig through walls.
  • Creating Meat from defeated monsters.

Fusion Pots can combine many of these Seals into one item, creating an insanely powerful weapon. If a weapon with two 200% damage to a specific monster type seals hits a monster of both types, 400% damage will be dealt (normal damage is quadrupled). Floating-type is the most common in monsters of two types, therefore the Air Slayer Seal File:Shiren 1 DS Weapon Seal Air.png is one of the most useful.

Curses

See: Curses

Weapon Seals do not function while the item is cursed but the upgrade value will be preserved and still function for attack power. Once equipped, the Weapon also cannot be normally removed.

Rusting

Triggering Rust Switch and Midoro Family Monsters can decrease the Upgrade Value of weapons and monsters level 3 and 4 can remove Seals.

A weapons minimum upgrade value is the same number as its Base Strength.

Grey Slimes and Red Slimes

The [Gld]File:Shiren 1 DS Weapon Seal Gold.png Seal will be removed first, then the other seals in a random order. When attacking, your weapon or shield will either rust or have a seal removed from it.
Green Slimes: Decrease upgrade value by 1 each rust.
Purple Slimes: Decrease upgrade value by 2 each rust.
Grey Slimes: Decrease upgrade value by 1 each rust and can remove seals.
Red Slimes: Decrease upgrade value by 3 each rust and can remove seals.

Exceptions

  • Clubs cannot rust by Rust Switches, but can rust by Midoro Family Monsters (all levels).[Citation needed]

Weapons cannot lose their intrinsic ability, e.g. a Dragon Killer cannot have its [Drg] Seal removed, however the [Drg] seal can potentially be lost if this weapon is melded into a Nagamaki or another Weapon other than a Dragon Killer.

Buying and Selling

Base Price: Weapon cost without added inherent Seal Price.
Upgrade value price: Upgrade Value of weapon (+ive or -ive) x Buy+ (or) Sell+ value
Seal Price: No change whether buying or selling.

Equations for Weapon Price

Buying: Weapon base price + Upgrade value price + Seal Price(s). (total x 0.9 if cursed)

Selling: (Weapon base price x 0.3) + Seal Price(s) + Upgrade Value price (subtract if value is negative) (total x 0.9 if cursed)

Price of Individual Seals: SFC
File:Shiren 1 DS Weapon Seal Gold.png File:Shiren 1 DS Weapon Seal Dragon.png File:Shiren 1 DS Weapon Seal Fragile.png File:Shiren 1 DS Weapon Seal Critical.png File:Shiren 1 DS Weapon Seal Ghost.png File:Shiren 1 DS Weapon Seal Homing.png File:Shiren 1 DS Weapon Seal 3x.png File:Shiren 1 DS Weapon Seal Cyclops.png File:Shiren 1 DS Weapon Seal Drain.png File:Shiren 1 DS Weapon Seal Meat.png File:Shiren 1 DS Weapon Seal Star.png File:Shiren 1 DS Weapon Seal Air.png File:Shiren 1 DS Weapon Seal Pickaxe.png File:Shiren 1 DS Weapon Seal Kigny.png File:Shiren 1 DS Weapon Seal Dig.png
500 1,000 200 2,000 400 3,000 1,500 300 300 800 300 300 200 2,500 1,000

When checking the 'info' of a weapon with multiple seals, they will be listed in the above order. The breakable Pickaxe [Dig] Seal and the unbreakable Pickaxe Seal [Dig] are mutually exclusive.

List of Weapons

Sprite Name Description Base
Strength 		Seal Shop
English Japanese Attribute Price Value Buy Buy+ Sell Sell+
Bufoo's Cleaver ブフーの包丁 5 1,000 250 2,000 100 800 55
Club こん棒 2 - - - 240 24 80 8
One-eye Killer 1ツ目殺し 5 1,000 250 3,600 260 1,500 125
Dragon Killer ドラゴンキラー 7 500 130 3,600 310 1,200 107
Drain Buster ドレインバスター 5 800 200 4,000 320 1,800 160
Kajinfumato 火迅風魔刀 30 - - - 30,000 3,000 12,500 1,250
Accuracy Sword 必中の剣 2 1,000 250 10,000 900 5,000 475
Goken-Manjikabra 剛剣マンジカブラ 12 - - - 15,000 1,500 7,000 700
Hiken Kaburasutegi 秘剣カブラステギ 50 - - - 40,000 4,000 17,500 1,750
Katana カタナ 6 - - - 800 80 300 30
Dotanuki どうたぬき 8 - - - 1,200 120 400 40
Minotaur Axe ミノタウロスの斧 4 1,500 400 6,000 450 2,400 200
Pickaxe つるはし 1 120 30 240 12 100 7
Nagamaki 長巻 4 - - - 500 50 200 20
Yoto Kamaitachi 妖刀かまいたち 3 1,200 300 5,000 380 2,000 170
Exorcist Sicle 成仏の鎌 4 500 150 2,000 150 900 75

External References

[1] Item price info.

  1. ↑ http://twist.jpn.org/sfcsiren/index.php?%E3%82%A2%E3%82%A4%E3%83%86%E3%83%A0#j816b0c5
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