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[[Shiren 5/Monsters/Mixer Family|Mixers]] appear on many floors, and (as usual) try to merge all your items together before you leave these floors. In this dungeon, mixers often appear together with [[Shiren 5/Mudkin Family|Mudkins]], which can damage your equipment. Be careful while moving on these floors, and consider equipping a shield only so you can remove it if a Mudkin ends up next to you. Floors 7, 29 and 30 are opportunities to use Mixers without having to worry about Mudkins / Muddys. Be careful when trying to mix on 48-51F: a Mixergon might in fact be a Eagle Tengu, in which case your first item will be lost. On these floors, test out a Mixergon by throwing an item that doesn't mix (such as a Wood Arrow) and seeing if it swallows the arrow, and use the remaining 3 slots for mixing
[[Shiren 5/Monsters/Mixer Family|Mixers]] appear on many floors, and (as usual) try to merge all your items together before you leave these floors. In this dungeon, mixers often appear together with [[Shiren 5/Mudkin Family|Mudkins]], which can damage your equipment. Be careful while moving on these floors, and consider equipping a shield only so you can remove it if a Mudkin ends up next to you. Floors 7, 29 and 30 are opportunities to use Mixers without having to worry about Mudkins / Muddys. Be careful when trying to mix on 48-51F: a Mixergon might in fact be a Eagle Tengu, in which case your first item will be lost. On these floors, test out a Mixergon by throwing an item that doesn't mix (such as a Wood Arrow) and seeing if it swallows the arrow, and use the remaining 3 slots for mixing


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Shops appear often in this dungeon, and it is important to maximize them. [[Shiren 5/Identifying Items#Indirect Identification|Price check]] and name every item, and do a [[Shiren 5/Identifying Items#Direct Identification|mass identification]] if you can. Look out for opportunities and reasons to [[Shiren 5/Dungeon Tips#Stealing from shops|steal from a shop]].  
Maximizing monster houses: Never fight in the middle of the room, but retreat into a hallway. Use Pinning Staff to escape, use Cloning Staff to distract, use a Confusion Scroll if you need the entire room disabled for a few turns. If at all possible, avoid walking on any tile that you don't 100% know is untrapped. Note that the hallway entrances to all rooms including monster houses are never trapped to begin with. Swing your sword over every tile to check for traps, which is especially useful in small monster houses. It is debateable if you should use Steady Shield or Unmoving rune, since it is very helpful to be able to use a Warp Grass or Pinning Staff when in trouble without having to remove your shield first. Make sure not to step on the trap that turns all items into monsters, at least not until you've despoiled everything you want from the room. And lastly, learn to skip monster houses when you have virtually everything you want already, as beyond a certain point of wealth, the upside of risking a monster house becomes less and less worth it, esp. as you get deeper and the danger increases. Sometimes the best thing to do is to pin your way to the exit as fast as possible.


Shops appear often in this dungeon, and it is important to maximize them. [[Shiren 5/Identifying Items#Indirect Identification|Price check]] and name every item, and do a [[Shiren 5/Identifying Items#Direct Identification|mass identification]] if you can. Look out for opportunities and reasons to [[Shiren 5/Dungeon Tips#Stealing from shops|steal from a shop]].  
Monster houses are very common. See how to [[Shiren 5/Dungeon Tips#Dealing with monster house|deal with them]] and what to do if you end up [[Shiren 5/Dungeon Tips#Dealing with being surrounded|surrounded]]. In general, being in middle of the room is dangerous, and you should see if you can escape into a hallway, ideally before the monsters can take a move. Monster houses are always generated with many traps, and it is often worth checking for traps before you walk on every tile, especially if the room is small. Monster Trap can be particular devastating, since it destroys all items in the room and turns them into monsters.  


"Pop-ups", or surprise monster houses, also appear often. A room marked as a surprise monster house has a chance of popping up every time you take a step in the room, and there is no way to know it in advance. (For some theories on how these are triggered, see the comment.) <!-- d -->These pop-up monster houses put you at risk of being surrounded, so it is always a good idea to have some items handy, such as Warp Grass, Pinning Staff and Confusion Scroll. When monsters pop up around you, always take a look around the room and see if there are any particularly dangerous monsters, such as [[Shiren 5/Monsters/Fearabbit Family|Fearabbits]] and high level [[Shiren 5/Monsters/Mutaikon Family|Mutaikons]], or a Mage that can hit you. Note that a pop-up monster house generates new traps, so the tiles you have walked on are not entirely safe.


This dungeon has a high frequency of "pop-up" or surprise monster houses. A room marked as a surprise monster house has a chance of popping up every time you take a step in the room, and there is no way to know it in advance. (For some theories on how these are triggered, see the comment.) <!-- d --> However, you can still prepare for them. Warp Grass and Hide Pots are both good prep items. Keep both a Pinning Staff and Swap Staff to help you escape the room as quickly as possible if a monster house pops up while you're in the middle. Walk in a straight line every time you enter a room lets you pin out most easily. It's also useful to keep at least one Confusion Scroll on hand if possible. Confusion lasts much longer than Slumber, and the monsters don't "wake" from Confusion hasted. Fear Scrolls and Fixer Scrolls aren't bad but only work on your immediate neighbors rather than the entire room. And of course, Swift Grass and Invincible Grass are definitely useful emergency items. It's always a good idea to keep at least one Heal Pot on hand if you can. Of course, when a monster house first pops up, immediately stop and check what monsters you're dealing with (and don't forget that tiles you walked over already may now have traps on them). If there are particularly dangerous monsters (e.g. monsters that can put you to sleep by hitting you, monsters that can inflict bad status ailments by throwing things at you, monsters that can yank you to their location and surround you with other monsters), this might be an excellent time to pin completely out the room and a fair ways down a hallway if you still have an open line of site to do so, or to use a Hide Pot or Warp Grass if you don't have a direct line of site for escape via Pinning Staff.
It is debatable if you should synthesize with Steady Shield. The rune prevents Fearabbits from pulling you in, but it also prevents you from using Warp Grass and Pinning Staff, unless you remove your shield, which is not always a good idea.  


On late floors, sometimes it is best to skip monster houses and [[Shiren 5/Dungeon Tips#Diving|push for the exit]], especially if you already have everything you want. 
== Expert Badges ==
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Key Parameters
Initial Goal Floor 50F
Final Goal Floor 99F
Day / Night Day
Bring Items In No
Take Items Out Yes
# of Allies 0
# of Rescues 0
Pre-ID'd Items No
New Items No
Shops All 3 types
Monster Houses Common, including pop-ups
NPCs Shopkeepers only
Spawn Rate Every 30 turns (normal)
Winds of Kron Normal (slow)

Perilous Rocks is a bonus dungeon in Shiren 5 with a higher rate of monster houses, including "pop-up" monster houses. You can't take items, Gitan, or allies into the dungeon, nor can you request rescue, but you keep the items if you win. The dungeon is daytime only and the initial goal floor is 50 F. After the first victory, the goal floor becomes 99 F and stays there permanently.

Gaining Access

This dungeon can be accessed from the Dungeon Center in Nekomaneki Village. Access is not restricted; you can play as soon as you can reach the Dungeon Center.

Unique Features

  • Monster houses are more common than normal, and especially "pop-up" or "surprise" monster houses.
  • Shops are more common than normal.
  • Item distribution differs but it's hard to be specific:
    • You can apparently find the full variety of items in this dungeon, though not uniformly spread across all the floors.
    • Earlier floors tend to have less expensive and less harmful items.
  • The dungeon is daytime only.

Final Reward

Every time you beat this dungeon (either version), you get a Worthy Shield, the level 8 form of the Shoddy Plank, which isn't particularly useful.

Farming Opportunities

Perilous Rocks is a difficult dungeon and escape items are scarce. However, items are very abundant in this dungeon, so you will find more rare items than usual. Swords and shields can be tagged, while some items (such as Angel Seed and Upgrade Pot) can be turned into a rune on a tagged piece of equipment via a Mixer.

If you synthesize with everything you find along the way, you will end up with a massive build. This can be a good way to obtain equipment with many upgrade points and runes.

Strategy

Like with other dungeons where you cannot take items in, many tips related to beating this dungeon can be found in Dungeon Tips.

This dungeon is very generous with items, due to the higher rate of monster houses and shops.

Mixers appear on many floors, and (as usual) try to merge all your items together before you leave these floors. In this dungeon, mixers often appear together with Mudkins, which can damage your equipment. Be careful while moving on these floors, and consider equipping a shield only so you can remove it if a Mudkin ends up next to you. Floors 7, 29 and 30 are opportunities to use Mixers without having to worry about Mudkins / Muddys. Be careful when trying to mix on 48-51F: a Mixergon might in fact be a Eagle Tengu, in which case your first item will be lost. On these floors, test out a Mixergon by throwing an item that doesn't mix (such as a Wood Arrow) and seeing if it swallows the arrow, and use the remaining 3 slots for mixing

Shops appear often in this dungeon, and it is important to maximize them. Price check and name every item, and do a mass identification if you can. Look out for opportunities and reasons to steal from a shop.

Monster houses are very common. See how to deal with them and what to do if you end up surrounded. In general, being in middle of the room is dangerous, and you should see if you can escape into a hallway, ideally before the monsters can take a move. Monster houses are always generated with many traps, and it is often worth checking for traps before you walk on every tile, especially if the room is small. Monster Trap can be particular devastating, since it destroys all items in the room and turns them into monsters.

"Pop-ups", or surprise monster houses, also appear often. A room marked as a surprise monster house has a chance of popping up every time you take a step in the room, and there is no way to know it in advance. (For some theories on how these are triggered, see the comment.) These pop-up monster houses put you at risk of being surrounded, so it is always a good idea to have some items handy, such as Warp Grass, Pinning Staff and Confusion Scroll. When monsters pop up around you, always take a look around the room and see if there are any particularly dangerous monsters, such as Fearabbits and high level Mutaikons, or a Mage that can hit you. Note that a pop-up monster house generates new traps, so the tiles you have walked on are not entirely safe.

It is debatable if you should synthesize with Steady Shield. The rune prevents Fearabbits from pulling you in, but it also prevents you from using Warp Grass and Pinning Staff, unless you remove your shield, which is not always a good idea.

On late floors, sometimes it is best to skip monster houses and push for the exit, especially if you already have everything you want.

Expert Badges

[TODO: confirm that there are no expert badges.]

Monsters

The types of monsters that can appear in this dungeon have not yet been replicated to this wiki. Here are good external resources:

Open Questions

  • Check if there are monster badges.
  • Flesh out the tips and strategy section.
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