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Open Questions
- On my 1st run, I found 4 Synthesis Pots in the first ~10 floors. I assumed they were just super common in this dungeon. I wanted the pots back at home, so I used an Escape Scroll rather than completing the run. I played Gen's Turf only 2 more times after that, once dying around 15 F and then beating it, and I never saw another Synthesis Pot again. Why were the Synthesis Pots so common in that one run? Was I just incredibly lucky that run, or was something controlling that, like having a lucky day, and is it something I could control and repeat? I suspect there might be a hidden variable that influences luck in dungeon runs, and I suspect you can get a hint about it by talking to the fortune teller in Inori Village (and who also sometimes appears in Tower of Fortune). Maybe you should visit her before going into any dungeon, and depending on what she says on a given day, you can decide to go a dungeon to intentionally exit quickly to consume and discard some bad luck, or you can choose the right dungeon to go into to consume some good luck. E.g. maybe go into the hardest dungeons on days when the fortune teller says you have a good fortune?
- On my 2nd run, which failed around ~15 F, I actually died several floors earlier, and a strange thing happened. An NPC woman came out of nowhere and revived me, as if I had a Revival Herb. IIRC, she stayed around as an ally of mine, but quickly got killed by the many monsters around me. (I don't remember what I was doing to get in such a bad situation at the time.) Why did this lady appear, and is it something I can control? Is it something I unlocked without realizing it in Tower of Fortune or elsewhere? Will she always appear the first time I collapse in Gen's Turf, or do I need to reset her somehow? Is this by any chance the same NPC woman who you find wandering in the Tower of Fortune who asks if you think she will find what she's looking for, and if you say no, she gives you an item and disappears, and if you say yes, she just disappears? (Working theory: this is an old note. There probably isn't anything unique here, it's probably just the young boy and his older sister side NPC quest, which you can reset. But the note says that the NPC that revived me stayed around as my ally for a bit—is it someone else??)
- The dungeon summary info for Gen's Turf, before you launch the dungeon, says that you can request 3 rescues. I didn't see a way to request a rescue when I died, after the NPC lady rescued me. Did I just miss it? Did the NPC woman who rescued me throw it off?
- [Confirm: Does swapping a trap in inventory with one on the ground count as an action? What if only one of the items is a trap, or neither is a trap?]
- [Confirm: What if you put the trap into a pot then throw the pot into a wall and break it? Will the trap be immovable after that?]
- Can you hit a Flamebird with a thrown Duelist Trap or will it burn up?
- It is not yet know if you get additional Trapper Bracelets when you beat the 99 F version of the dungeon. The Japanese wiki seems to say that you only ever get one, the first time you beat the dungeon, but this needs confirmation.
- [Can you get Trapper Bracelets in Template:Shiren5 or not? Can you get multiple copies of Trapper Bracelets from this dungeon?]
- I have not tried to make multiple copies of monster licenses. I wonder if you (e.g.) kept a duplicate license in a pot if only one copy would be destroyed if you accidentally damaged one of your ally monsters.
- (I believe inflicting status effects on ally monsters does not break the license, but this needs to be confirmed.)